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    The Japanese pitcher #27 "The Babe" can throw 80 mph. He's pitching live on ESPN right now.

    1st inning - 3Ks.
    Last edited by songtitle; 08-16-2012, 10:21 AM.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by songtitle View Post
    The Japanese pitcher #27 can throw 80 mph. He's pitching live on ESPN right now.

    1st inning - 3Ks.
    80 mph from 45 feet is insane....

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    • #3
      he's also over 6' tall and 200lbs.

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      • #4
        All I can say is that if you like this, you need to see a 12yo named Emilio Vasquez. You won't see him in the LLWS, though.
        Last edited by Roothog66; 08-16-2012, 11:41 AM. Reason: spelling

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        • #5
          Something to be said for biological age versus chronological age.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
            Something to be said for biological age versus chronological.
            Oh, yes. One thing I found from talking to most of the upper level 12yo teams nationally is that almost every kid opn those teams is at the upper end of the age bracket. On those teams, almost every kid was in the seventh grade this year, whereas with my team, every player was in sixth. All within the same age bracket. Around my neck of the woods, seventh graders tend to play at 13u in order to be with their friends even when they qualify for 12u. This makes for some huge teams when you look at the Houston Banditos, Grant Baseball Academy, Team Phenom, etc. At least half the roster on those teams is composed of kids over 6'.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 0-rain View Post
              he's also over 6' tall and 200lbs.
              a 6 feet 200 pound japanese kid? most adult japanese are not that big
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roothog66 View Post
                Oh, yes. One thing I found from talking to most of the upper level 12yo teams nationally is that almost every kid opn those teams is at the upper end of the age bracket. On those teams, almost every kid was in the seventh grade this year, whereas with my team, every player was in sixth. All within the same age bracket. Around my neck of the woods, seventh graders tend to play at 13u in order to be with their friends even when they qualify for 12u. This makes for some huge teams when you look at the Houston Banditos, Grant Baseball Academy, Team Phenom, etc. At least half the roster on those teams is composed of kids over 6'.
                It all changes with puberty. By 8th grade the kids don't discuss ball that was played on a small field. Those who have successfully moved on to the large field are focused on that. The ones who have stopped playing don't care enough about baseball to talk about the good ole days. They have new interests.

                I know many of the families from the LL all-star that won states and played in the LLWS when my son was twelve. Two of the eleven kids aren't playing college ball. One was the biggest kid on the team. He was the stud pitcher who got them to the LLWS. He stopped growing after LL. The other was the 5 foot second baseman. He's now a 6' 4" shooting guard for a D1 basketball team. The "other pitcher" is now a D1 pitcher. The backup second baseman is playing D1 baseball.
                Last edited by tg643; 08-16-2012, 12:45 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Roothog66 View Post
                  Oh, yes. One thing I found from talking to most of the upper level 12yo teams nationally is that almost every kid opn those teams is at the upper end of the age bracket. On those teams, almost every kid was in the seventh grade this year, whereas with my team, every player was in sixth. All within the same age bracket. Around my neck of the woods, seventh graders tend to play at 13u in order to be with their friends even when they qualify for 12u. This makes for some huge teams when you look at the Houston Banditos, Grant Baseball Academy, Team Phenom, etc. At least half the roster on those teams is composed of kids over 6'.
                  That describes my kid. One of the youngest in his grade, one of the oldest in the league (league doesn't allow playing up).

                  So, every year he bounces around from the kids he plays with .... one year he's with the kids in his grades, the next he's with the kids in a grade below.

                  I don;t say it out loud, but I view it as alternating [1] competitive years with [2] wasted years. Seriously, the second year we spend all year trying to "stay back", which for a 9-11 year old kid is just ridiculously hard.

                  To me, there's no reward ... until at least LL Districts when he's playing against other kids that have his same May-June birthday.

                  This year he went from 9-10 LL Minors 46/60 straight into 6th grade 54/80 baseball. Hey look, half of the pitches are curveballs. That's what we've seen so far.

                  At some point I simply think it's an exploit and not what's best for the kid(s). But, there will be a "cutoff date kid" no matter what it is. I prefer kids to play with at least their grade level.

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                  • #10
                    80mph from 46 feet, that's just plain insanity! I can barely fathom the low 70's I was seeing last week.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by clayadams View Post
                      80mph from 46 feet, that's just plain insanity! I can barely fathom the low 70's I was seeing last week.
                      Eighty from 46' is like 105 from 60.5'. Seventy is like 93.

                      Just divide the two distances and multiply by the pitch speed. Ex. 60.5/46=1.315.
                      1.315(x)=pitch equivalent from 60.5.

                      We saw 63 at 10u last year from 46'...equivalent to about 83. That gave us big time problems!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by raptor View Post
                        Eighty from 46' is like 105 from 60.5'. Seventy is like 93.

                        Just divide the two distances and multiply by the pitch speed. Ex. 60.5/46=1.315.
                        1.315(x)=pitch equivalent from 60.5.
                        We saw 63 at 10u last year from 46'...equivalent to about 83. That gave us big time problems!

                        That's actually the only argument FOR LL as far as competition goes. Kids learn to hit with less reaction time at an earlier age.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by raptor View Post
                          That's actually the only argument FOR LL as far as competition goes. Kids learn to hit with less reaction time at an earlier age.
                          less reaction time is right!! , I have watched 2 LLWS games and already have seen 2 kids get hit in the helmet and 1 kid in the face/Lips.

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                          • #14
                            We saw 70 once from 46ft at 10u this year and I was scared for our players safety. I can't fathom 80 from that distance.

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                            • #15
                              Danny Almonte anyone?
                              See ball, hit ball.

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