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    Been doing some research as far as contrasting hitting philosophies. I’ve recently dove head first into the approaches of Lau and Epstein........

    Any of you guys have a particular expert that really influenced your general approach to hitting and or teaching?

    No matter how much I’ve learned, the more I realize I don’t know
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    Originally posted by Mark Brooks View Post
    Been doing some research as far as contrasting hitting philosophies. I’ve recently dove head first into the approaches of Lau and Epstein........

    Any of you guys have a particular expert that really influenced your general approach to hitting and or teaching?

    No matter how much I’ve learned, the more I realize I don’t know
    Ted Williams, his book really opened up a new way of thinking about the swing. The book is vague, but still excellent.

    For the record, I don't like Lau's approach. I think many of his absolutes are really not that important.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pstein View Post
      Ted Williams, his book really opened up a new way of thinking about the swing. The book is vague, but still excellent.

      For the record, I don't like Lau's approach. I think many of his absolutes are really not that important.
      I like pstein's approach. The cues he uses like knob to the ball, fly off the merry go round, get out on the front side with a solid lunge type movement. Money for sure. I never really used my front arm but after talking with him he has me pulling really hard with the lead side. My rear hip has never pushed baseballs around the infield with so much authority. Thank you pstein, thank you!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mr. potato head View Post
        I like pstein's approach. The cues he uses like knob to the ball, fly off the merry go round, get out on the front side with a solid lunge type movement. Money for sure. I never really used my front arm but after talking with him he has me pulling really hard with the lead side. My rear hip has never pushed baseballs around the infield with so much authority. Thank you pstein, thank you!!
        I do NOT advocate that. I advocate having the rear leg drive and use of the hands. I have spoken many times about rear hip coil. I hate flying off the merry go round and knob to the ball. Shift THEN swing is bad.

        So I hope this is sarcasm.

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        • #5
          While I sought my own answers over the years I coached... The ones who got me to think about hitting differently was Nyman, Englishbey, and all the other forumers who contributed to those early discussions.

          Also Williams...
          "He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
          - John Cotton Dana (1856–1929) - Offered to many by L. Olson - Iowa (Teacher)
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          • #6
            I don't have a favorite. I picked up bits and pieces from various coaches and experts along the way and implemented it in my teaching.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pstein View Post
              I do NOT advocate that. I advocate having the rear leg drive and use of the hands. I have spoken many times about rear hip coil. I hate flying off the merry go round and knob to the ball. Shift THEN swing is bad.

              So I hope this is sarcasm.

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              • #8
                I have a favorite guru, that I use as the beginning. However, there is so much good and useful information provided by so many other knowledgeable gurus and instructors that I use quite a few in teaching individual players. To do otherwise is very limiting. The only time to tune someone out is when they are proposing something as an absolute that is demonstrably false.

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                • #9
                  Never use one expert to turn players into cookie cutter hitters where they all look alike. I watched a preteen coach do this and harm players. You have to use the player's style and correct the flaws.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tg643 View Post
                    Never use one expert to turn players into cookie cutter hitters where they all look alike. I watched a preteen coach do this and harm players. You have to use the player's style and correct the flaws.
                    No kidding.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tg643 View Post
                      Never use one expert to turn players into cookie cutter hitters where they all look alike. I watched a preteen coach do this and harm players. You have to use the player's style and correct the flaws.
                      On the other hand, to much advice from to many experts can also be a negative.
                      Just a baseball layman trying to make sense of it all...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trademark View Post
                        On the other hand, to much advice from to many experts can also be a negative.
                        When I'm the one filtering the expertise into my teaching style there's no such thing as too many experts. I can take it or leave it from each one. I've even taught conflicting technique when I thought what would work for one kid wouldn't work for another.

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                        • #13
                          I tend to agree that it is very good to learn as much as possible and filter based on what the hitters strengths and weaknesses are. I am certified through Epstein and I looking to work with Yeager within the next month or so. I would say that they teach conflicting methods but I also beleive that both will work depending on what type of hitter you have.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by michhood622 View Post
                            I tend to agree that it is very good to learn as much as possible and filter based on what the hitters strengths and weaknesses are. I am certified through Epstein and I looking to work with Yeager within the next month or so. I would say that they teach conflicting methods but I also beleive that both will work depending on what type of hitter you have.
                            I believe Epstein is superior to most public materials, though I believe he has some flaws. He doesn't appear to understand "hip cock", which Williams called the most important move.

                            My issue with Yeager is that his material tends to facilitate shift THEN swing, rather than shift and swing. If you shift THEN swing, you're not going to hit off speed well, and once you reach a certain level, you simply won't hit at all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pstein View Post
                              I believe Epstein is superior to most public materials, though I believe he has some flaws. He doesn't appear to understand "hip cock", which Williams called the most important move.

                              My issue with Yeager is that his material tends to facilitate shift THEN swing, rather than shift and swing. If you shift THEN swing, you're not going to hit off speed well, and once you reach a certain level, you simply won't hit at all.
                              Has anyone read the Yaz autobiography about the '67 season? He talks about Teddy's 4 rules of hitting. I had the book and I lost it. I can remember three..
                              Turn your hips and shoulders to the pitcher.
                              Be quick.
                              Know your pitch..not neccesarily what you want but what he is likely to throw you in a certain count.
                              Yaz said whenever he went into a slump he would call Ted and he would fly in..give him a two hour berating lesson and it would be the same stuff. Then he would go on a tear.

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