Plant your back foot and drive!

[BamaYankee]

Son's coach keeps pounding him on this. I keep telling son to ignore it. Natural result of hips getting good rotation. Am I right to say that?

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[songtitle]

Plant your back foot and drive!

To me, the back leg/foot 'drive' is not a teach. Some people think the butt/leg moves the body forward rapidly.

Your weight is over the middle, then you pick up your front foot.

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Your son has great torso/hips/leg movement. Don't change - it's perfect. May be one of the best youth moves I have ever seen.

However, he is a) definitely pushing his hands away from his shoulder (causing arm bar), and b) 'throwing the knob at the ball' too long (maybe), causing him to contact the ball (weakly) way in front of his foot. He should make contact at/near the ball of his front foot.

[BamaYankee]

Your son has great torso/hips/leg movement. Don't change - it's perfect. May be one of the best youth moves I have ever seen.
However, he is

a) definitely pushing his hands away from his shoulder (causing arm bar), and
b) 'throwing the knob at the ball' too long (maybe), causing him to contact the ball (weakly) way in front of his foot. He should make contact at/near the ball of his front foot.

Do you see the same in this tee swing clip? Tee is placed inside his stride.
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Hitting too far out front is something I have been working on with him for a while. Besides reminding him to let the ball travel in deeper, I have told him to pull the hands around to his belly instead of back up to the pitcher. The only thing other thing I can think of is to tell him to try to drive the ball to right center. What would you tell him?

[lancers]

Hitting too far out front is something I have been working on with him for a while. Besides reminding him to let the ball travel in deeper, I have told him to pull the hands around to his belly instead of back up to the pitcher. The only thing other thing I can think of is to tell him to try to drive the ball to right center. What would you tell him?

It's easier to tell him to do the right thing than get it done. He has to hit out in the front because he is not getting his bat up to speed early enough.

[songtitle]

Do you see the same in this tee swing clip?

His hands are leaking away from his shoulder in both clips. Maybe in a mirror, have him stride to toe touch, then see if he can touch his shoulder with his extended thumb. Then, keep it there until his hips make a half turn.

I love the angle the ball takes off the tee. Very nice.

Hitting too far out front is something I have been working on with him for a while.

If he keeps his hands back, this may fix this.

[pstein]

It's easier to tell him to do the right thing than get it done. He has to hit out in the front because he is not getting his bat up to speed early enough.

Agreed. He hears the whoosh in front of him, as do 99% of hitters. He needs to get it deep.

To aid you:

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(Sorry for my caveman side by side, it's the best I can do)

[pstein]

Let's take a look at this hitter, to help you out.



This is Nick Williams. He was drafted this year. Big, athletic specimen. Much bigger and much stronger than most hitters ever will be. Hits the ball a mile. But his swing requires that he hit the ball out front. That's where his speed is. As he progresses, this swing will stop working.

Push vs. whip: Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Pujols, etc. whip. Your son, Nick Williams, Bryce Harper, and 99% of all other hitters push.

[TexAg]

Let's take a look at this hitter, to help you out.



This is Nick Williams. He was drafted this year. Big, athletic specimen. Much bigger and much stronger than most hitters ever will be. Hits the ball a mile. But his swing requires that he hit the ball out front. That's where his speed is. As he progresses, this swing will stop working.

Push vs. whip: Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Pujols, etc. whip. Your son, Nick Williams, Bryce Harper, and 99% of all other hitters push.

Nick actually signed to play at Texas A&M before getting drafted. :hissyfit:

Nick started having some trouble his Sr year last year with his swing and had a subpar year all things considered.

[raptor]

For educational purposes..it looks like he gets a coil and stretch but lets it go too early..correct? Doesn't maintain the hip socket separation long enough IOW. Does he let too much weight get outside of his back knee?

[lancers]

For educational purposes..it looks like he gets a coil and stretch but lets it go too early..correct? Doesn't maintain the hip socket separation long enough IOW. Does he let too much weight get outside of his back knee?

He's using his shoulder rotation to generate power. That led to a very passive use of hand and late barrel turn.

[BamaYankee]

Let's take a look at this hitter, to help you out.
Push vs. whip: Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Pujols, etc. whip. Your son, Nick Williams, Bryce Harper, and 99% of all other hitters push.

I'm not sure i understand. He is what he is and that can't be changed? He cant hit the ball effectively any deeper? How would you approach this if he was a student of yours?

[dominik]

why have you killed his hands?

[pstein]

I'm not sure i understand. He is what he is and that can't be changed? He cant hit the ball effectively any deeper? How would you approach this if he was a student of yours?

No! He can be changed. He can hit the ball deeper in the zone for now. As the velocity increases, and pitchers can effectively change speeds, he'll have to hit the ball out front more frequently. Which will make him easy prey for off-speed.

How would I approach this? Well, I believe that he needs to coil "around" the rear hip. Then, when he picks up the front foot, he needs to pull back with the pelvis (pelvis resists rotation). This was referred to as pulling back with the iliac crest (part of the pelvis). Then, he needs to either float the barrel (Tip and Rip) or get the rear scapula retracted. HOLD the retraction! Now, turn the barrel about the hands.

[pstein]

For educational purposes..it looks like he gets a coil and stretch but lets it go too early..correct? Doesn't maintain the hip socket separation long enough IOW. Does he let too much weight get outside of his back knee?

If he ever coils or stretches (which he doesn't in this clip, IMO), he gives it up. Lancers says he's using shoulder rotation to generate power. I can agree with that. I believe he's using a rotational push.