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  • My son was literally born to play baseball

    (If this first part is TLDR -Too Long, Didn't Read - just skip to the question at the bottom.)

    My son was literally born to play baseball! We wanted to sign our youngest son up to play T-ball when he was 5 years old. We were pretty disappointed to learn that he was considered to be "league age" 4 because his birthday was May 1.

    He missed the age cutoff by something like 6 hours. What I didn't realize at the time is what a huge advantage it can be for a youth baseball player to be born in May, June, or July. I think my son is a pretty average size for his age. So now instead of being the runt of the league age 7 year olds he is a more advanced league age 6 year old.
    If he had been born a day earlier I would have most certainly made the inadvertent mistake of moving him up from t-ball to coach pitch baseball too soon and the trend of moving him up levels too soon would always be a real danger.

    We let him play soccer and baseball when he was 5 and 6, when he was turning 7 we made him choose 1 sport and he choose baseball, he absolutely loves the game.

    My son was also born with drive to win and be the best and a fear that he will be the worst. It's a challenge to help him keep a proper attitude.

    Mostly I thought I'd make this post here as a way of introducing myself and to thank everyone for the helpful discussions I've been reading here for a few months.

    I am managing my son's LL team. I feel like if I can get the boys into a good batting stance, a good infield ready position, get them to understand the basics of good throwing mechanics, and help them to love the game and have fun then I've done my job. They can learn the rest of the swing and subtle techniques in a couple of years when they have more strength and coordination.

    /TLDR

    Question:
    Attached is a picture of my son batting. (I like the expression on his face.) As a coach are there any key points you could see in a photo like this that could help you analyze a players swing? What are you looking for in the posture of the player at this point in the swing?

    BattingFall2012.jpg

  • #2
    to know his potential you and your wife need to gun your throws first.

    nice picture BTW. looks good for his age
    I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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    • #3
      My only advice would be to put him back into soccer and any other sport he wishes to play for now. Too young in my opinion to focus only on baseball. As far as advice on baseball, make sure he is having fun, get his grip right and as you said help with the throwing and catching mechanics.

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      • #4
        Dude:

        Welcome.

        Originally posted by Xraf View Post
        My son was literally born to play baseball!... he is a more advanced league age 6 year old... the trend of moving him up levels too soon would always be a real danger... we made him choose 1 sport and he choose baseball... My son was also born with drive to win and be the best and a fear that he will be the worst...
        Ummmm... Dude... First off you need to relax... Honestly, the above comments might be the some of the craziest statements about a 6-year-old I've ever read on this forum... YOU need to really examine them and ask yourself some SERIOUS questions...

        Originally posted by Xraf View Post
        I am managing my son's LL team. I feel like if I can... help them to love the game and have fun then I've done my job.
        This is the BEST thing you said in your introduction, and the ONLY thing you should be doing - GOOD JOB!

        Originally posted by Xraf View Post
        Question:
        Attached is a picture of my son batting. (I like the expression on his face.) As a coach are there any key points you could see in a photo like this that could help you analyze a players swing? What are you looking for in the posture of the player at this point in the swing?
        NO one can, or really should, analyze a swing of a 6-year-old by a single picture...

        Good luck.
        Last edited by Bolts-Baseball; 09-21-2012, 07:46 AM.
        I don't like my balls to smell like pickles.

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        • #5
          Welcome. It's a marathon, not a sprint, but I think it safe to say we all know where you are coming from and have felt the same feelings about our own kids in one form or another. I love the look of intensity on his face also. My son used that same bat at his age as well.

          I would play as many sports as you can though. Even if you stick with baseball exclusively he will benefit in baseball from knowledge learned in other sports.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.

            Originally posted by Bolts-Baseball View Post
            Dude:

            Welcome.

            Ummmm... Dude... First off you need to relax... Honestly, the above comments might be the some of the craziest statements about a 6-year-old I've ever read on this forum... YOU need to really examine them and ask yourself some SERIOUS questions...
            Hee hee. I don't think I expressed myself very well if you understood my post to be more intense than it was tongue in cheek in cheek humor along with a statement realizing how age can be more of an advantage than skill and talent at this age.

            One of my points was that the natural tendency is to move kids up to the next level as soon as possible, it's natural. But... kids really need to be playing with other kids their own age to have the most fun.

            He's 7 now and playing coach pitch baseball. If he had played T-ball when he had just turned 5 and then played coach pitch baseball when he had just turned 6 I'm guessing he wouldn't have had as much fun playing baseball... and I would be on a soccer forum trying to learn what I could so I could stay a couple steps ahead of youth soccer players. By a fluke of cut-off dates we were prevented from letting my son play organized baseball too early.


            NO one can, or really should, analyze a swing of a 6-year-old by a single picture...

            Good luck.
            I don't want his swing analyzed from a single picture. I don't even need his swing analyzed. Again, sorry, I'm not always as clear as I should be. The picture is about three things...

            1. It's a fun picture, the expression is priceless. His lips are pursed, his nose is scrunched, and his eyes are intensely focused on the ball. The ball is in the frame so it gives a neat perspective.

            2. As a coach I want the tools to think and see players like a coach, not only as a parent. I'm a slow learner so if I'm going to have the skills I need to help each kid on a team 3 or 4 years down the road I need to be learning now.

            3. I a proud dad and from my limited knowledge I like a lot of things I see in his swing so far. (It's a subtle brag.)

            But keep the hunt alive for the crazy parents I know there are plenty out there.

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            • #7
              Does anyone else have an area AYSO soccer program that is split into two halves? (1st half fall & second half spring.) For our family it's just too much to have two sports being played simultaneously so he can't do soccer and baseball unless he plays on a travel soccer team in the fall only. Football might be his fall sport next year, he says it looks like fun to him.

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              • #8
                I understood everything...

                Age 6 or 7, coach-pitch, machine-pitch... whatever... like I pointed out in my first response NOTHING at this age matters EXCEPT the FUN... AND, very little to nothing your kid will do on the small youth field will matter when transferring to the high school/college field. If he's got a competitive nature and knows the game with proper offensive and defensive fundamentals, he will be fine... In the end, there is NO replacement for talent, size, strength, reps, determination, commitment and passion.

                Originally posted by Xraf View Post
                ...kids really need to be playing with other kids their own age to have the most fun...
                This is not true, by a LONG shot...

                Originally posted by Xraf View Post
                But keep the hunt alive for the crazy parents I know there are plenty out there.
                Yes there are... :ooo:
                I don't like my balls to smell like pickles.

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                • #9
                  The original OP has to be a sock. There are just too many parodies points in his inital paragraph. No way this person is real....no way.

                  I mean, he had the kid pick one sport at 7 to specialize on....7, no way.
                  Last edited by crazyhawk; 09-21-2012, 11:57 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Xraf View Post
                    Does anyone else have an area AYSO soccer program that is split into two halves? (1st half fall & second half spring.) For our family it's just too much to have two sports being played simultaneously so he can't do soccer and baseball unless he plays on a travel soccer team in the fall only. Football might be his fall sport next year, he says it looks like fun to him.
                    Xraf,
                    Over the years we have had hundreds of parents new to the game come and go on BBF... Many of us were proud dads with some of our children playing college and professional ball... and even more important, in my mind, moving on to become great coaches themselves. The key to success at this age is what is being offered - have fun, play a number of different sports, make small adjustments, and enjoy the ride. If your son was made to play ball... he'll let you know post-pubescent - until then it's just a game he plays.

                    I also love the look. this is what baseball is all about.

                    As far as help... He looks pretty good. At this age I would concentrate on his posture, how he rotates and how he stays connected... These three things will get you there. His grip needs work... There are clips in Clips, Pics and Sites that show a proper grip. It'll be difficult to rotate properly with the grip he used in that pic.
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                    • #11
                      The still photo is useless for swing analysis. Good luck to you and your son...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pstein View Post
                        The still photo is useless for swing analysis. Good luck to you and your son...
                        Not entirely useless. I think we all agree there is a certain position that all great hitters reach just prior to and at contact and that it matters little how they got there. I think sometimes a still photo can show that a hitter either is or isn't where he needs to be and can eliminate the other parts of the swing that don't matter as much but yet play to many of our prejudices in pre-power position mechanics.

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                        • #13
                          Of course, this is coming from a former professional sports photographer that made his living at still shots and should, therefore, be takeb with a grain of salt!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by crazyhawk View Post
                            The original OP has to be a sock. There are just too many parodies points in his inital paragraph. No way this person is real....no way.

                            I mean, he had the kid pick one sport at 7 to specialize on....7, no way.
                            Really? Not where I live. Quite a few kids are specializing in sports at 7 (soccer, baseball, softball, golf, tennis, etc.). I don't believe it is healthy for the kids, but many parents think they have the next Messi, Tiger Woods, etc. It's way more common than it should be. I haven't seen any kid "born to play" any sport, and I have worked with hundreds of youth players in different sports.
                            The outcome of our children is infinitely more important than the outcome of any game they will ever play

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pstein View Post
                              The still photo is useless for swing analysis. Good luck to you and your son...
                              Since a video is nothing but a series of still photos, a single photo isn't useless. It just has a lot less information in it than a video clip. For those of us who check positions in a swing, absolutely stills can be of some value (though video is always better).
                              The outcome of our children is infinitely more important than the outcome of any game they will ever play

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