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    I need advice on my son's swing....

    Where should I begin to help him get a little more consistency. He made his first all star team this year and I'm proud of him.

    He was a HR hitter when I was there in Japan with him. Now his coach has changed and I am not there has changed his swing. Coaching there is very strict in all phases of the game. Everything has to be the coaches way or you dont play in all phases of the game.

    http://youtu.be/-zA7IHpJrdM

    http://youtu.be/P-qhIDgrwKA
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Infinite View Post
    Where should I begin to help him get a little more consistency. He made his first all star team this year and I'm proud of him.

    He was a HR hitter when I was there in Japan with him. Now his coach has changed and I am not there has changed his swing. Coaching there is very strict in all phases of the game. Everything has to be the coaches way or you dont play in all phases of the game.

    http://youtu.be/-zA7IHpJrdM

    http://youtu.be/P-qhIDgrwKA
    Infinate... I'm assuming your son is in Japan and you are in the States???
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
      Infinate... I'm assuming your son is in Japan and you are in the States???
      Yes I'm here in the states for now. I will be returning there for good in the spring.

      He's 12 years old.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Infinite View Post
        Yes I'm here in the states for now. I will be returning there for good in the spring.

        He's 12 years old.
        Several thoughts.... There could be a great deal going on at this age - he may not be doing as well simply because the competition is better... He seems like a good player with a decent swing. Being so far away it is difficult for you to properly assess what it is he is doing right/wrong, although I am certain he keeps you updated electronically. Complicating things further is your inability to speak with his coach one on one.

        My advice is not to do anything until you return home. Do you have a coach you trust that can take a look at him during a practice?
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        • #5
          It is also difficult to see what he's doing right/wrong with the clips you provide. The best would be during hitting practice.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
            Several thoughts.... There could be a great deal going on at this age - he may not be doing as well simply because the competition is better... He seems like a good player with a decent swing. Being so far away it is difficult for you to properly assess what it is he is doing right/wrong, although I am certain he keeps you updated electronically. Complicating things further is your inability to speak with his coach one on one.

            My advice is not to do anything until you return home. Do you have a coach you trust that can take a look at him during a practice?
            unfortunately there isnt anyone there that I know/trust to help him.

            He tries to keep up most of the fundementals that I taught him, staying balanced, and squaring up.

            I was watching his swing lately and it seems off but I cant put my finger on it.

            He is starting JHS this spring and this is going to be a crucial time for him because some of the better HS's in baseball and All-Star teams are aware of him.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
              It is also difficult to see what he's doing right/wrong with the clips you provide. The best would be during hitting practice.
              He does understand there is very little I can do from here but he always wants some little tid bit that he wants to work on.

              It kind of looks like he is opening up too soon... The front foot doesnt seem to be pivoted soon enough and rotating around it.

              http://youtu.be/K4-MP3CuFO8
              Last edited by Infinite; 10-21-2012, 12:05 PM.
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              • #8
                This seems to be an issue...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Infinite View Post
                  He does understand there is very little I can do from here but he always wants some little tid bit that he wants to work on.

                  It kind of looks like he is opening up too soon... The front foot doesnt seem to be pivoted soon enough and rotating around it.

                  http://youtu.be/K4-MP3CuFO8
                  Let me first say that I'm a noobie baseball dad, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Also, I agree with Jake, that said I think you are looking for some input on your son's swing so I figured I'd chime in.

                  If I'm understanding your thought, I'd agree that something seems wrong about how he plants his front foot. I'm not sure if it's that he plants his front foot open (thus opening his hips too early), but it doesn't seem like he's posting up against his front leg, but rather he's placing it down on the ground, shifting his weight onto a flexed front leg. Seems like this not only shows itself in his hips opening up early, but his body goes down then up as he swings.

                  Again, take all this with a grain of salt and hopefully you'll get some other input here while you wait til you can get back home.
                  Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
                    but it doesn't seem like he's posting up against his front leg....shifting his weight onto a flexed front leg. .
                    That's what I saw also. Front leg appears very flexed at contact. Pause at 3 secs., with bat having followed through behind his back. His upper leg isn't visible, but from the angle of his lower leg, he seems to have made contact with a flexed leg. This IMO would make it difficult to hit the ball your hardest anywhere on the field, but especially up the middle and to your pull field.
                    Perhaps some (or many) Japanese instructors teach this as part of a basehit non-power oppo-oriented technique.
                    Anecdotally, Hidecki Matsui stiffened up his front leg.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FXHYhWKKWE
                    Aoki, pause at 30secs.
                    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...91049&c_id=mlb

                    Disclaimer: I'm neither endorsing nor un-endorsing these two player's swings. Just noting front leg.
                    Last edited by skipper5; 10-22-2012, 06:34 PM.
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                    • #11
                      I searched in vain for Japanese hitting instruction videos on the web.

                      To my naked eye, I think I've seen Ichiro go to the oppo field with flexed front leg.

                      We should seriously consider that making contact with a stiff front leg may not be as uniformly taught in Japan as it is here.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Infinite View Post
                        Where should I begin to help him get a little more consistency. He made his first all star team this year and I'm proud of him.

                        He was a HR hitter when I was there in Japan with him. Now his coach has changed and I am not there has changed his swing. Coaching there is very strict in all phases of the game. Everything has to be the coaches way or you dont play in all phases of the game.

                        http://youtu.be/-zA7IHpJrdM

                        http://youtu.be/P-qhIDgrwKA
                        He's not throwing the barrel. His elbow is down and stays down. It should lift and then drop as it would in a throw he's just pulling the knob and then pushing the barrel at the ball.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Infinite View Post
                            Where should I begin to help him get a little more consistency. He made his first all star team this year and I'm proud of him.

                            He was a HR hitter when I was there in Japan with him. Now his coach has changed and I am not there has changed his swing. Coaching there is very strict in all phases of the game. Everything has to be the coaches way or you dont play in all phases of the game.


                            http://youtu.be/-zA7IHpJrdM

                            http://youtu.be/P-qhIDgrwKA
                            I don't like what his hands do during the load. They are a little stiff and out of sync. Needs to move them back in a relaxed and rhythmic way in sync with the pitcher.

                            In the second clip it was a pretty good job of executing a first/third defense for that level.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jbooth View Post
                              He's not throwing the barrel. His elbow is down and stays down. It should lift and then drop as it would in a throw he's just pulling the knob and then pushing the barrel at the ball.
                              I don't know how this happened, but I am in complete agreement with booth
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