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    I am trying to obtain some quality advice on what to expect, things to watch out for, helpful tips and anything else that you wish you would have known or learned along your journey through the LL baseball program. I realize that different LL's are run differently, but maybe a quick summary of where I am in my coaching journey and the options we have available will make it easier to share some advice and experiences.

    I have coached my older sons' youth baseball team for 7 years, and for the past 2.5 years concurrently with my younger boy's team. We played these years through city leagues that were not affiliated with LL baseball. I have coached two years of youth football through another city organization who also has a Pony league baseball program offered. I am leaning toward the LL program because it seems to be run better than the Pony league organization and appears to be a better fit than the city leagues given the competitive nature of my younger son. I like the rules of Pony better but I think there is time to decide if Pony is a better option later on down the road.

    My youngest just turned 7. We have the option of playing Coach Pitch 1 or Coach Pitch 2 through LL. He can hit pitched balls very well and I would say he throws/catches and understands the game in the above average category for his age group. CP1 would have him playing with kids his age or maybe a grade younger. CP2 would have him and his teammates playing with kids the same age or older, the field is bigger and the rules lean more toward what they can expect in kid pitch. I have 6 kids that want to come play LL on my team and those kids all are plenty capable of catching and throwing accurately on a fairly consistent basis.

    Some of the things I am wondering and looking for advice on are does CP2 sound like the place for our kids even though it puts them on the younger side of the age fulcrum? I have read where some of y'all would play LL and then grab a group of kids and play weekend tournaments together. Is that something to start looking at now or did y'all do that at the kid pitch level? How did you go about getting that team together? I feel confident in my ability to continue and teach these kids about the game, I have a great assistant coach who also was my assistant in football, so we work well together.

    So what can you offer? What are your experiences? What advice can you give other than the obvious of having fun and enjoying the journey, lol. Any potential pitfalls to going the route we are looking at? Maybe I am over thinking it but I have learned a lot from reading here, talking to others that have been down the road I am about to travel and hope to obtain a better perspective on how I can make the game as enjoyable as possible for my son and his teammates going forward.

    Thanks for the help,

    MPH

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    Originally posted by mr. potato head View Post
    I am trying to obtain some quality advice on what to expect, things to watch out for, helpful tips and anything else that you wish you would have known or learned along your journey through the LL baseball program. I realize that different LL's are run differently, but maybe a quick summary of where I am in my coaching journey and the options we have available will make it easier to share some advice and experiences.

    I have coached my older sons' youth baseball team for 7 years, and for the past 2.5 years concurrently with my younger boy's team. We played these years through city leagues that were not affiliated with LL baseball. I have coached two years of youth football through another city organization who also has a Pony league baseball program offered. I am leaning toward the LL program because it seems to be run better than the Pony league organization and appears to be a better fit than the city leagues given the competitive nature of my younger son. I like the rules of Pony better but I think there is time to decide if Pony is a better option later on down the road.

    My youngest just turned 7. We have the option of playing Coach Pitch 1 or Coach Pitch 2 through LL. He can hit pitched balls very well and I would say he throws/catches and understands the game in the above average category for his age group. CP1 would have him playing with kids his age or maybe a grade younger. CP2 would have him and his teammates playing with kids the same age or older, the field is bigger and the rules lean more toward what they can expect in kid pitch. I have 6 kids that want to come play LL on my team and those kids all are plenty capable of catching and throwing accurately on a fairly consistent basis.

    Some of the things I am wondering and looking for advice on are does CP2 sound like the place for our kids even though it puts them on the younger side of the age fulcrum? I have read where some of y'all would play LL and then grab a group of kids and play weekend tournaments together. Is that something to start looking at now or did y'all do that at the kid pitch level? How did you go about getting that team together? I feel confident in my ability to continue and teach these kids about the game, I have a great assistant coach who also was my assistant in football, so we work well together.

    So what can you offer? What are your experiences? What advice can you give other than the obvious of having fun and enjoying the journey, lol. Any potential pitfalls to going the route we are looking at? Maybe I am over thinking it but I have learned a lot from reading here, talking to others that have been down the road I am about to travel and hope to obtain a better perspective on how I can make the game as enjoyable as possible for my son and his teammates going forward.

    Thanks for the help,

    MPH
    I never had to put together a travel team until the kids were 11/12. At 7/8 CR we passed on all-stars. I thought it was foolishness compared to doing other things over the course of the summer. At 9U and 10U the travel team was the CR all-star team. We didn't have to look for talent. It was within the league. The 11/12U team was the fifteen best candidates to make the LL all-star team (we moved between 10 and 11). It was 13U where I put together the first real travel team. From two years of LL all-stars two other coaches and I made a list of players we wanted from twenty-two district teams. We had a list of twenty. We got thirteen of them. If you just hold and open tryout for a travel team at younger ages you have no idea if you will have talent turn out for tryouts that can compete. I suggest taking your league's all-star teams into summer LL and CR open invitational tournaments.

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    • #3
      Buh Bye BBF!
      Last edited by NoonTime; 11-07-2013, 07:20 PM.
      @noontimegifs

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      • #4
        Thanks for taking the time to respond TG and Noon for the PM....


        128 views and two responses, haha! I guess nobody else went through or is currently involved with LL baseball? :gt

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        • #5
          MPH, what are the differences in field sizes, and what are the rule differences between the two specifically?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by raptor View Post
            MPH, what are the differences in field sizes, and what are the rule differences between the two specifically?
            50' vs 60' bases
            25' vs 40' pitching distance
            6 pitches vs 3 strikes
            no advance on overthrow vs advance until play has stopped

            I am leaning toward CP2 even though our group will be old 6's and young 7's.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mr. potato head View Post
              50' vs 60' bases
              25' vs 40' pitching distance
              6 pitches vs 3 strikes
              no advance on overthrow vs advance until play has stopped

              I am leaning toward CP2 even though our group will be old 6's and young 7's.
              A different perspective: I might go with CP1 for a couple reasons. First, I prefer the non advance on overthrow rule. At that age routine groundballs can turn into 4-base errors, and some coaches will take advantage of this and just keep rounding the bag. Having more runners on will create more "baseball-like" teaching situations for your fielders and teach them to be quicker in throwing out runners due to the smaller basepaths. Second, the reduced pitching distance will allow a coach to be slightly more consistent and the kids will see more good pitches...just throw a little flat dart in there.
              Sure you may dominate CP1 but for a year I think it promotes better situational awareness.

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              • #8
                Duplicate posr
                Last edited by raptor; 11-08-2012, 08:36 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by raptor View Post
                  A different perspective: I might go with CP1 for a couple reasons. First, I prefer the non advance on overthrow rule. At that age routine groundballs can turn into 4-base errors, and some coaches will take advantage of this and just keep rounding the bag. Having more runners on will create more "baseball-like" teaching situations for your fielders and teach them to be quicker in throwing out runners due to the smaller basepaths. Second, the reduced pitching distance will allow a coach to be slightly more consistent and the kids will see more good pitches...just throw a little flat dart in there.
                  Sure you may dominate CP1 but for a year I think it promotes better situational awareness.
                  Thank you for the response and for listing a different perspective to consider. These were some of the things that have me somewhat torn between CP1 and CP2. Although my son and a few others have seen plenty of live arm pitching outside of the game, none have seen it in a game situation. I am sure there will be an adjustment period so I just want to make sure we do the right thing for them and their development. Getting 6 pitches from 25' vs 3 strikes from 40' seems like a big difference in the rate of success department. Again, maybe I am overcooking this since my son recently told me he wanted to skip CP and head right into kid pitch, haha.

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