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Using Video on the Field to Teach

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  • #16
    Originally posted by djmas View Post
    can someone recommend a good camera with a decent frame rate at a good price?
    Canon has many $100 or so cameras that will do 120FPS in good light.
    Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

    I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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    • #17
      chris, is 120fps the minimum you would go to analyze a baseball swing?

      looking at the Canon PowerShot ELPH 110 HS
      Last edited by djmas; 01-17-2013, 06:00 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
        iPad and free app called Ubersense (Google it). Works great for free. Used for batting and pitching. Can also load MLB swing and throws for comparison.
        Another vote for Ubersense. Not sure why they give it away. I'd like to see Apple add faster frame rates. They have to have some new camera improvement a couple times a year, that would be a good one.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by djmas View Post
          chris, is 120fps the minimum you would go to analyze a baseball swing?

          looking at the Canon PowerShot ELPH 110 HS
          No.

          60 FPS is usually enough, but 120 is a bit easier to find cheaply (at least at the moment).

          Another (newer) keyword to look for is 60P. That's another word for 60FPS and you're starting to see it a lot.

          P.S. I have the 110HS and had a 100HS. The only weakness is that there is no shutter priority mode, so it's only good outdoors.
          Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

          I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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          • #20
            I've never used "on field" video. I record almost everything with my kid though. At a later time we go over it and what we're specifically working on. We try to do specific things, then go back and watch it to see if we succeeded. Video has been the largest contributor to my kids development than anything else. (Well, and the people that help us review it and help me learn.)

            I have an HD camcorder that records to an SD card. It records directly in mp4 format, so I just copy the files off the SD card and paste them straight to my external hard drive. I then use Adobe Premiere to edit into slow motion so we can see the details in swing and pitching mechanics. Adobe Premiere is a high end editing tool though, not something most would use here. I know there are plenty of other cheaper and easy to use options. I bought the camera about 3 years ago for less than 300. I'm sure there are even better options now a days.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
              No.

              60 FPS is usually enough, but 120 is a bit easier to find cheaply (at least at the moment).

              Another (newer) keyword to look for is 60P. That's another word for 60FPS and you're starting to see it a lot.



              P.S. I have the 110HS and had a 100HS. The only weakness is that there is no shutter priority mode, so it's only good outdoors.
              I'm a little confused... I would think 120fps is better therefore more expensive? can you recommend a specific model? Not sure what "shutter priority mode" is...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by djmas View Post
                I'm a little confused... I would think 120fps is better therefore more expensive? can you recommend a specific model? Not sure what "shutter priority mode" is...
                It's overkill.

                It slows things down too much for general analysis purposes.

                Shutter priority mode lets you change the shutter speed and reduce blurring.

                Most indoor videos of hitters are blurry because the shutter speed is optimized for brightening up the image and not slowing the image down.
                Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

                I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
                  It's overkill.

                  It slows things down too much for general analysis purposes.

                  Shutter priority mode lets you change the shutter speed and reduce blurring.

                  Most indoor videos of hitters are blurry because the shutter speed is optimized for brightening up the image and not slowing the image down.
                  been on google for 2 plus hours and can't find a canon that has manual shutter speed for video... the ones that do are freaking expensive!!!

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                  • #24
                    http://gopro.com/hd-hero3-cameras[/url]

                    This is what our guy has..with the remote control $400...I don't know how the editing will turn out but you can see video at Dc Raptors channel. This camera has been hit by a ball fouled off and took it like a champ.
                    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fpEHbXfyyXg&feature=plpp
                    Last edited by raptor; 01-18-2013, 07:56 PM. Reason: add vid taken w camera

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mur5 View Post
                      Do you use the iPad to record the footage as well? I ask because I assumed you would need a more powerful camera to be able to break down footage frame by frame and still be able to see a clear image.
                      Yes. It works fine for my son, but he's only in Little League so his bat speed isn't too fast for an iPad and this app. Works great for him and he's friends. Give it a go if you're looking for free.
                      Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
                        Yes. It works fine for my son, but he's only in Little League so his bat speed isn't too fast for an iPad and this app. Works great for him and he's friends. Give it a go if you're looking for free.
                        Thanks! I'm gonna check it out.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by djmas View Post
                          can someone recommend a good camera with a decent frame rate at a good price?
                          Like MudV, I use a Sanyo Xacti, as it's one of the few entry-level camcorders that records at 60FPS. And, because it saves in .mp4, you can replay it with Quicktime frame-by-frame. Not sure what the latest model is. Also, even the under-$200 models will go up to 1920x1600 pixel (i.e., HD) resolution. I got mine about three years ago so I'm not sure what's out there now, but I'd start there.
                          sigpicIt's not whether you fall -- everyone does -- but how you come out of the fall that counts.

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                          • #28
                            ursa... would you go with a camcorder or a point and shoot camera?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by djmas View Post
                              ursa... would you go with a camcorder or a point and shoot camera?
                              While not Ursa, I'd just put it this way.....it all depends on what you're looking for.

                              Now while I'm not exactly sure what you're asking when you say "point and shoot camera", but I interpret that as a standard, single shot, digital camera; that even in the "continuous" mode, only shoots about 3 frames per second (fps).....when even the cheapest "camcorders" (video cameras) are shooting 30fps.

                              So you're basically losing 27fps, which means you're losing the opportunity to see the player's movements in a more detailed view. This is why many have opted to shoot at 60fps, to get even better looks between body movements of a player, when looking at a clip frame-by-frame......even though while viewing both rates (30 and 60) at regular speed, there will be very little observable difference.

                              Hope that makes sense, or what you were asking.
                              In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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                              • #30
                                Camcorder, plain and simple. I record everything, and then I can go back and watch anything, any moment I want.

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