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  • #16
    Originally posted by Standballdad View Post
    Yes he is the only frosh on varsity, and he knows he is very fortunate. He works very hard and the older team mates have embraced him. Playing college is his goal, but its a long road still and anything can happen.
    Congrats to your son Stand, that's a fine accomplishment, and as lancers said, not something that happens very often.

    You should be a very proud papa....as I'm sure you are.
    Last edited by mudvnine; 02-05-2013, 10:48 AM. Reason: Oops, username changed to protect the innocent.... :D
    In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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    • #17
      Originally posted by HYP View Post
      I can't believe they cut Frosh sports at your school. It's a pretty big school and in a power house league. We maintained our frosh sports for now. Are you guys going to be strong this year?
      The thing to remember is, it wasn’t just our school, it was Elk Grove Unified. We have 8 HSs, 9 MSs, and 40 elementary schools that the money has to cover. It was a really difficult choice, and for a while there was talk of only whacking certain “weaker” sports, baseball being among them. Luckily there was almost a uprising, so the final decision was to whack them all and let the chips fall where they may.

      I think we’ll be strong, and if our pitching which is very young and inexperienced blossoms, it could be a very exciting season.

      As we took the field for the first day, I'm the infield and hitting coach, I realized that my starting infield is going to be big. 3B is 6'5", SS is 6'4", 2B is 6'2" and 1B is 6'4". If we don't play baseball very good, we can always turn to basketball.
      LOL! Yeah, they’re getting’ bigger and bigger all the time, aren’t they. We only have a few “sides of beef”, but for our coach that’s fine. He loves to let the runners go crazy, and we’ve definitely got more than our share of speed.
      The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by scorekeeper View Post
        I think the “try-outs” at the Fr and JV level really are try-outs in the old fashioned sense of the word, but if most VHC coaches are like our coach, and I think they are, they suck every bit of talent they think would be useful at the V level out of the lower level team by the end of fall ball. Now a VHC who’s new to the program, or a new school is something different, but most of those guys know what talent’s in their program and don’t need to have an old school “try-out” to find it.
        Unfortunately, I've seen the "freshman phenom" taken a little too seriously in recent years at our school. Had a couple freshies put on the V team due to their incoming hype, who I don't really feel should have been there.

        IMO, unless you have a freshie who's going to be a starter, or get the lion's share of the innings at a particular position, you're just wasting a year of his talents that could be better used at a lower level....not to mention, letting him get adequate playing time (ie. experience) in the HS environment.

        Hate to see a senior cut, or a junior demoted to the JV team, simply because of a "reputation" that hasn't proven itself at the HS level.

        JMO obviously, I'm sure others MMV.....
        In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
          Unfortunately, I've seen the "freshman phenom" taken a little too seriously in recent years at our school. Had a couple freshies put on the V team due to their incoming hype, who I don't really feel should have been there.

          IMO, unless you have a freshie who's going to be a starter, or get the lion's share of the innings at a particular position, you're just wasting a year of his talents that could be better used at a lower level....not to mention, letting him get adequate playing time (ie. experience) in the HS environment.

          Hate to see a senior cut, or a junior demoted to the JV team, simply because of a "reputation" that hasn't proven itself at the HS level.

          JMO obviously, I'm sure others MMV.....
          Mud, I agree, if my son was not going to be a starter on V I would rather see him play JV and get a lot of playing time. Currently he is a starter.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
            Congrats to your son Stand, that's a fine accomplishment, and as lancers said, not something that happens very often.

            You should be a very proud papa....as I'm sure you are.
            Thanks Mud, I have gotten a lot of good advice on baseball and life off this site from the likes of you and others. I am sure as my son goes down his HS path that I will be on this board looking for more advice. Thanks again!

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            • #21
              Another dad of a freshman here. Their first day of try-outs was yesterday. It was a 4 hour practice. They'll make the cuts on Wednesday. His Varsity coach let the boys know ahead of time that all the freshmen will be playing on the freshman team this Spring. My son has been practicing with the HS team 5 days a week after school since school started in the fall, so the varsity coach already has a good idea of what he can do. That takes a lot of the pressure off in a tryout. Even if he has a bad couple days he'll make the team. I'm excited for the experience of HS ball as a dad. The freshman team is loaded and is honestly better than the JV team. The Varsity team is very senior heavy, so next year there's going to be a group of sophomores hoping to make varsity.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
                Unfortunately, I've seen the "freshman phenom" taken a little too seriously in recent years at our school. Had a couple freshies put on the V team due to their incoming hype, who I don't really feel should have been there.
                To tell the truth, its been rare that I’ve seen a Fr make the V and truly be a producing starter in programs that are strong, unless the VHC is inexperienced or the school is on the small side. There will always be mistakes made, but it should be rare.

                IMO, unless you have a freshie who's going to be a starter, or get the lion's share of the innings at a particular position, you're just wasting a year of his talents that could be better used at a lower level....not to mention, letting him get adequate playing time (ie. experience) in the HS environment.
                That’s so true, but its hard to get some parents to understand that. I know when my boy was a Fr, I understood why he wasn’t put on the V, but dumbfounded he didn’t get put on the JV. But by halfway through the season, I learned why. We lived over 20 miles away in a place where the coaches wouldn’t know jack about him, so he had to earn his bones. Now however, we have a VHC who lives out here and who helps a great deal with the LL and travel teams because his son plays, and things are a lot different.

                Hate to see a senior cut, or a junior demoted to the JV team, simply because of a "reputation" that hasn't proven itself at the HS level.
                When I hear any Sr has been cut, it really makes me sad. Its not so bad if they’ve never made the team, but if they’ve been on one of the HS teams for 3 years then get cut, its really heartbreaking to me. We don’t have the other problem because Jrs can only play on the V.
                The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by azmatsfan View Post
                  …My son has been practicing with the HS team 5 days a week after school since school started in the fall, so the varsity coach already has a good idea of what he can do. …
                  WOW! Coaches around here would pass out from blood loss to the brain if they could have their baseball teams practice all during the school year.

                  … I'm excited for the experience of HS ball as a dad.
                  Wring out every second of enjoyment because the next 4 years fly by!
                  The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Standballdad View Post
                    Mud, I agree, if my son was not going to be a starter on V I would rather see him play JV and get a lot of playing time. Currently he is a starter.
                    Darn it, that came out wrong Stand.....I didn't mean to make that sound like I was talking about your son, even if he wasn't a starter (nice to hear the he will be though).

                    As you said, your son played with the V team during their summer league. I was referring to those freshies who come out to tryouts from other sports, who hadn't played with the V baseball team before, and due to the "talk on the streets" are given a V spot from their "LL" rep, and have yet to prove it on the HS field.
                    In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by scorekeeper View Post
                      When I hear any Sr has been cut, it really makes me sad. Its not so bad if they’ve never made the team, but if they’ve been on one of the HS teams for 3 years then get cut, its really heartbreaking to me. We don’t have the other problem because Jrs can only play on the V.
                      I've pushed for that for the past three years to no avail.

                      But then again, from the sounds of it, we don't have the baseball demographics at our school that I think you may at yours, so maybe greater minds know better than I.....oh well.
                      In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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                      • #26
                        I was watching the first pre-season game for varsity baseball and after talking with one of the parents there are only 12 kids on varsity.

                        From what I understand there is not enough talent at the JV level (there is no freshman baseball team) to bring up to the varsity.

                        I'm not really looking forward to my son starting high school next year.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tradosaurus View Post
                          I was watching the first pre-season game for varsity baseball and after talking with one of the parents there are only 12 kids on varsity.

                          From what I understand there is not enough talent at the JV level (there is no freshman baseball team) to bring up to the varsity.

                          I'm not really looking forward to my son starting high school next year.
                          If you’re really despondent about the school, it sounds like you have to make some pretty big decisions pretty quickly. But I wouldn’t get too down in the mouth about it from the baseball perspective. Just the fact that there’s a baseball team means there’s gonna be games played, and that’s really what its all about.
                          The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
                            I've pushed for that for the past three years to no avail.

                            But then again, from the sounds of it, we don't have the baseball demographics at our school that I think you may at yours, so maybe greater minds know better than I.....oh well.
                            Its not just our school as far as I know.
                            The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
                              Darn it, that came out wrong Stand.....I didn't mean to make that sound like I was talking about your son, even if he wasn't a starter (nice to hear the he will be though).

                              As you said, your son played with the V team during their summer league. I was referring to those freshies who come out to tryouts from other sports, who hadn't played with the V baseball team before, and due to the "talk on the streets" are given a V spot from their "LL" rep, and have yet to prove it on the HS field.
                              Mud, its cool, did not assume you were referring to my son, trust me his no phenom.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tradosaurus View Post
                                I was watching the first pre-season game for varsity baseball and after talking with one of the parents there are only 12 kids on varsity.

                                From what I understand there is not enough talent at the JV level (there is no freshman baseball team) to bring up to the varsity.

                                I'm not really looking forward to my son starting high school next year.
                                Our problem is exactly the opposite, too many good players. The competition is brutal, if you don't deliver in a couple games then you will see the bench soon.

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