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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    The grilling of other posters, especially on non-baseball matters, is not going to happen here. On topic or move on. Thanks.

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  • BiZmaRK
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    Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
    Responses above.
    OK, since you base being a racist on one's feelings and not one's actions, then you believe one can be a racist without them saying or doing anything which would cause others to think he/she is a racist.
    Yes, but racism also impacts actions, which are worse than racist thoughts.
    OK, so you think one who holds racist beliefs which don't impact their actions is not a racist. Correct?

    And you believe one who says or does things which might make them appear to be a racist isn't necessarily a racist.
    Possibly, but to judge you almost have to go a case by case basis.
    And what criteria would you use to determine if one were a racist?

    So am I a racist if I think black people are superior wide receivers in football largely because of their ethnic stock?
    Racism is different than acknowleding that there are differences in human beings, sometimes which are affected by genetics or culture.
    OK, so if one thinks Asian people have a greater tendency to be smarter than African American people, then they aren't racist. Correct?

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  • Toledo Inquisition
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    Originally posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    OK, since you base being a racist on one's feelings and not one's actions, then you believe one can be a racist without them saying or doing anything which would cause others to think he/she is a racist. Yes, but racism also impacts actions, which are worse than racist thoughts. And you believe one who says or does things which might make them appear to be a racist isn't necessarily a racist. Possibly, but to judge you almost have to go a case by case basis.
    So am I a racist if I think black people are superior wide receivers in football largely because of their ethnic stock? Racism is different than acknowleding that there are differences in human beings, sometimes which are affected by genetics or culture.
    Responses above.

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  • BiZmaRK
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    Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
    I might have been more clear - I was speaking of what society considers him. I don't want to get into my own thoughts on how much I agree with or disagree with his comments, as that gets into societial issues I don't feel comfortable discussing here.

    My general definition of racism would be that it is when one considers a human being inferior or superior based on ethnic stock.
    OK, since you base being a racist on one's feelings and not one's actions, then you believe one can be a racist without them saying or doing anything which would cause others to think he/she is a racist. And you believe one who says or does things which might make them appear to be a racist isn't necessarily a racist.

    So am I a racist if I think black people are superior wide receivers in football largely because of their ethnic stock?

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  • Toledo Inquisition
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    Originally posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    What is your definition of 'racist'?
    I might have been more clear - I was speaking of what society considers him. I don't want to get into my own thoughts on how much I agree with or disagree with his comments, as that gets into societial issues I don't feel comfortable discussing here.

    My general definition of racism would be that it is when one considers a human being inferior or superior based on ethnic stock.
    Last edited by Toledo Inquisition; 10-13-2014, 10:08 AM.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post
    John Rocker bothered the rest of us before anybody bothered him.
    That's because you let him.

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  • BiZmaRK
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    Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
    Being a fan of this shown, Rocker was shown to be a nice guy who was actually friendly to the minorities. My family was rooting for him on Wednesday, because his competition was truly despicable. He was shown to be highly competitive with a streak of violence if you were mean to him.

    Of course, that is editing. So the truth is:

    A) He has changed and grown to be a better man.
    B) Still is a racist but hid it well (unlikely, he was isolated with minorities only for a while)
    C) CBS had footage of him being a racist and didn't use it. I'd say this is the least likely - a TV show with explosive footage and not using it? They showed the violent streak with no issue.
    What is your definition of 'racist'?

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  • Mr. Laser Beam
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    John Rocker bothered the rest of us before anybody bothered him.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    I think Rocker's more of the "don't bother me, I won't bother you" type than anything else.

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  • Toledo Inquisition
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    Being a fan of this shown, Rocker was shown to be a nice guy who was actually friendly to the minorities. My family was rooting for him on Wednesday, because his competition was truly despicable. He was shown to be highly competitive with a streak of violence if you were mean to him.

    Of course, that is editing. So the truth is:

    A) He has changed and grown to be a better man.
    B) Still is a racist but hid it well (unlikely, he was isolated with minorities only for a while)
    C) CBS had footage of him being a racist and didn't use it. I'd say this is the least likely - a TV show with explosive footage and not using it? They showed the violent streak with no issue.

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  • BiZmaRK
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    John Rocker was voted out Wednesday night while holding an immunity idol in his pocket.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/john...eth-eliminated

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  • ol' aches and pains
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    Originally posted by TonyK View Post
    I thought Rocker was a very good pitcher and he sure sunk fast once the media went after him.
    He probably should have kept his mouth shut.

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  • TonyK
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    I've watched every Survivor series even though the formula is getting old and repetitive in recent years. The producers have to include at least one professional male athlete in every series to boost the ratings.

    I think the tribes will do to him (and his GF) just what they did to Jeff Kent. He will be viewed as a threat and he clearly cannot keep his mouth shut for very long. His GF is too hot and the other ladies will take her out. The odds are he spills the beans and tells someone who he really is.

    I thought Rocker was a very good pitcher and he sure sunk fast once the media went after him.

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  • Orioles5
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    John Rocker being on Survivor is no where near the worst of things that have happened on reality shows.

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  • Zito75
    started a topic John Rocker to compete on "Survivor"

    John Rocker to compete on "Survivor"

    Just when you thought reality TV couldn't get worse... this is has the makings to be a total train wreck!

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...n-cbs-survivor

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