old baseball

[harvesfield]

hello everyone
i have an old ball, its a splading AS all star ball and it has nine names on it incuding nolan ryan , rico petrocelli, richie hebner, jim palmer, bob gibson and rick monday. I don't think they are autographs . just wondering why these names would be lumped together? as far as i am aware they were never all in the same all star game indeed one was never selected to the mid season classic. Does this mean the ball dates from the 60's ? just wondering why this ball was produced. if anyone can shed any light i'd be very grateful.

[flyingdutchdude]

Do you have a picture of the sigs? Are you sure they are not written in pen?

If the mix and match sigs are authentic they may have been gathered over time, usually at Spring Training.

[harvesfield]

here is the ball. the other names are joe ? tom ? don ? but surnames are not legible due to wear.

[ipitch]

I can't say for sure, but they look like facsimile autographs to me. If Rick Monday's autograph was genuine, why did he start writing in between the stitches?

[harvesfield]

no i don't think they are genuine either. but do you know how old this type of ball is ? would it be from their era or just a modern creation ?

[Utter Chaos]

here is the ball. the other names are joe ? tom ? don ? but surnames are not legible due to wear.

Do you have scans of these other sigs? That looks like Joe Torre under Jim Palmer.

Maybe Don Kessinger on the right above Nolan Ryan.

[AutographCollector]

Those are definitely facsimile autographs on that ball.

[Dalkowski110]

What really strikes me as odd is the spelling..."Official All Starr." Or is that just a stain or cut on the cover of the ball?

[flyingdutchdude]

Unusual facsimile signed ball.

Like you said Hebner wasnt an All Star, but he was a very good player. In the late 60's Nolan Ryan was probably the worst player of the bunch.

Id estimate it to be from 1970-74...... not late 60's, by the fact that Nolan Ryan is on it. Overall he was a below average pitcher from 1966-71 (Mets years) even though his hits to inning ratio was excellent, his wildness killed his win % and effectiveness.

Edited to add:
Also just noticed Joe Torre on the ball. Torre was an MVP and batting champ in 1971.

Who is the Don?? Money, Sutton, Baylor???

[steve rogers]

I'm pretty sure this is a prize ball. I had a few of these. I got them by sending in a few dollars to a cereal/dogfood/snack cake company. I got them when I was really young so I can't really remember too much. I know I had a few that had Yankees all stars and old timers and another that had the AL all star team, I remember because it had a George Brett signature on it which at the time was as good as owning the shroud of Turin. Even though the signauture was fake.

Scott

[Utter Chaos]

Unusual facsimile signed ball.

Like you said Hebner wasnt an All Star, but he was a very good player. In the late 60's Nolan Ryan was probably the worst player of the bunch.

Id estimate it to be from 1970-74...... not late 60's, by the fact that Nolan Ryan is on it. Overall he was a below average pitcher from 1966-71 (Mets years) even though his hits to inning ratio was excellent, his wildness killed his win % and effectiveness.

Edited to add:
Also just noticed Joe Torre on the ball. Torre was an MVP and batting champ in 1971.

Who is the Don?? Money, Sutton, Baylor???

See Post #6

[harvesfield]

tx for all your help. does anyone have an idea of what its worth ?

[Utter Chaos]

If I had to venture a guess I'd say no more than $5 or $10 on account of the condition, the signatures not being real, and there not being any common connection between the names.

[vptpt]

What really strikes me as odd is the spelling..."Official All Starr." Or is that just a stain or cut on the cover of the ball?

That's what I thought too, maybe the Beatles had something to do with it. But if you look at the centering on the text, the extra "r" would throw it off to the right. So I guess that's just a scar on the ball or something.

It's a nifty collectible though. It's the kind of thing I want to have in the baseball shrine I'm making at home.