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  • Originally posted by BSmile View Post
    1908 Chicago Cubs Team Panoramic
    1908 Cubs Team Stats
    Just when I thought I'd seen every panoramic. Amazing sweaters too!
    Here's a message that GaryL sent me regarding the year of this pic:
    "I'm finding guys in there that weren't on the '08 team, but were on the '09 and/or '10 team (e.g., Jimmy Archer, Tom Needham, King Cole, Ginger Beaumont, Chick Frazer). Are you sure of the '08 year...or could it be one of those confusing Spring training photos that we can't verify the exact year?

    I essentially responded that my source lists 1908 as the date, but that could be wrong. It has certainly happened more than a few times in the past.
    One thing I did notice but hadn't mentioned is that based on the signs, it appears the photo was taken in Boston (or Massachusetts in any case)
    Any other thoughts?
    ~B
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    • Originally posted by BSmile View Post
      One thing I did notice but hadn't mentioned is that based on the signs, it appears the photo was taken in Boston (or Massachusetts in any case)
      Any other thoughts?
      ~B
      I think this photo was taken between May 13-16, 1910 at South End Grounds III in Boston home of the Boston Doves. The Cubs played a 4 game series and wouldn't return until July.

      Not too many good close up photos of the signs at South End Grounds III.

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      • Originally posted by Dto7 View Post
        I think this photo was taken between May 13-16, 1910 at South End Grounds III in Boston home of the Boston Doves. The Cubs played a 4 game series and wouldn't return until July.
        Sounds quite plausible...

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        • Originally posted by BSmile View Post
          Sounds quite plausible...
          Much thanks to BSmile for finding and posting this wonderful panoramic, which I think is one of the finest from the DeadBall Era that we have in the collection. And thanks to Dto7 for his help with the identifications and in determining the year of the photo.

          It does appear to be the 1910 pennant-winning team.

          1910 Cubs

          L-R: Joe Tinker (SS), Lew Richie (P), Harry Steinfeldt (3B), Jimmy Archer (UT), Johnny Evers (2B), Tom Needham (C), Heine Zimmerman (UT), Jack Pfiester (P), Rube Kroh (P), Ed Reulbach (P), Harry McIntire (P), Orval Overall (P), Frank Chance (Mgr/1B), King Cole (P), Solly Hofman (CF), Johnny Kling (C), Frank "Wild Fire" Schulte (RF), Jimmy Sheckard (LF), Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown (P), Fred Luderus (1B), Ginger Beaumont (OF), John Kane (OF).
          Last edited by GaryL; 03-06-2012, 05:21 PM.

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          • Originally posted by GaryL View Post
            Much thanks to BSmile for finding and posting this wonderful panoramic, which I think is one of the finest from the DeadBall Era that we have in the collection. And thanks to Dto7 for his help with the identifications and in determining the year of the photo.

            It does appear to be the 1910 pennant-winning team.

            1910 Cubs

            L-R: Joe Tinker (SS), Lew Richie (P), Harry Steinfeldt (3B), Jimmy Archer (UT), Johnny Evers (2B), Tom Needham (C), Heine Zimmerman (UT), Jack Pfiester (P), Rube Kroh (P), Ed Reulbach (P), Harry McIntire (P), Orval Overall (P), Frank Chance (Mgr/1B), King Cole (P), Solly Hoffman (CF), Johnny Kling (C), Frank "Wild Fire" Schulte (RF), Jimmy Sheckard (LF), Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown (P), Fred Luderus (1B), Ginger Beaumont (OF), John Kane (OF).
            So I found some more evidence that points to 1910. In the famous panoramic poster, "A Yard Of The National Game", the Cubs teams of 1906-07-08 are celebrated (along with the ballpark) and there's an edited version of that same 1910 Cubs panoramic on the bottom. The poster is clearly marked: "COPYRIGHT 1910 E.T. JOHNSON & CO." Further over it reads: "ISSUED BY E.T. JOHNSON & CO., PUBLISHERS OFFICIAL SCORE CARD CHICAGO LEAGUE BALL CLUB, 1456 WEST HARRISON STREET, CHICAGO."

            My guess is that the poster was issued in 1910 to celebrate not only the '06-07-08 teams, but the new league champs of 1910 as well (albeit prior to the 1910 World Series). For many years now, that poster has been attributed to what I now feel is the wrong year, 1908.
            Last edited by Bill Burgess; 03-06-2012, 08:25 AM.
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            • Originally posted by BSmile View Post
              So I found some more evidence that points to 1910. In the famous panoramic poster, "A Yard Of The National Game", the Cubs teams of 1906-07-08 are celebrated (along with the ballpark) and there's an edited version of that same 1910 Cubs panoramic on the bottom. The poster is clearly marked: "COPYRIGHT 1910 E.T. JOHNSON & CO." Further over it reads: "ISSUED BY E.T. JOHNSON & CO., PUBLISHERS OFFICIAL SCORE CARD CHICAGO LEAGUE BALL CLUB, 1456 WEST HARRISON STREET, CHICAGO."

              My guess is that the poster was issued in 1910 to celebrate not only the '06-07-08 teams, but the new league champs of 1910 as well (albeit prior to the 1910 World Series). For many years now, that poster has been attributed to what I now feel is the wrong year, 1908.
              BTW, the right side of that poster shows the team lined up wearing suits, holding their hats. The top right corner of the image looks like it says "FILE PHOTO CO BOSTON". It's very hard to read because of the poor resolution.
              Last edited by Bill Burgess; 03-06-2012, 08:26 AM.
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              • The photo was also used in 1910 Cubs World Series program..

                1910 Chicago Cubs World Series game 5 program

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                • Originally posted by Dto7 View Post
                  The photo was also used in 1910 Cubs World Series program..

                  1910 Chicago Cubs World Series game 5 program
                  Well there ya go, there's no doubt...it's the 1910 Chicago Cubs Team. I'll change my original posting.

                  Last edited by BSmile; 03-06-2012, 07:33 AM.
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                  • Why isn't the 1910 Cubs shown in full size? My heart jumped when I thought we might be down-sized again.

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                    • Originally posted by Bill Burgess View Post
                      Why isn't the 1910 Cubs shown in full size? My heart jumped when I thought we might be down-sized again.
                      The original post is...but when I re-posted it I used the "insert image" code from BBF, which still downsizes the images for some reason.

                      Last edited by BSmile; 03-06-2012, 08:51 AM.
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                      • 1882 Providence Grays Team
                        1882 Grays Team Stats
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                        • 1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings Team
                          1888 Red Stockings Team Stats

                          1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings; 80-54, .597, 4th Place, 11.5 g behind,---BB-Reference

                          Top Row, standing, L-R: Pop Corkhill (CF), George Tebeau (LF), Bill Hart (P), Bid McPhee (2B), Billy Serad (P), Heinie Kappel (SS/2B).

                          Middle Row, L-R: Tony Mullane (P), John Reilly (1B), Gus Schmelz (Mgr.), Aaron Stern (President), Louis Hauck (Secretary), Jim Keenan (C), Lee Viau (P).

                          Bottom Row, L-R: Mike Smith (P), Frank Fennelly (SS), Hugh Nicol (RF), Kid Baldwin (C).
                          Last edited by Bill Burgess; 03-09-2012, 12:59 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by BSmile View Post
                            1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings Team
                            1888 Red Stockings Team Stats

                            1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings; 80-54, .597, 4th Place, 11.5 g behind,---BB-Reference

                            Top Row, standing, L-R: Pop Corkhill (CF), George Tebeau (LF), Bill Hart (P), Bid McPhee (2B), Billy Serad (P), Heinie Kappel (SS/2B).

                            Middle Row, L-R: Tony Mullane (P), John Reilly (1B), Gus Schmelz (Mgr.), Aaron Stern (President), Louis Hauck (Secretary), Jim Keenan (C), Lee Viau (P).

                            Bottom Row, L-R: Mike Smith (P), Frank Fennelly (SS), Hugh Nicol (RF), Kid Baldwin (C).
                            Wow!...That's a real beauty...a great addition to our American Association collection!
                            Last edited by GaryL; 03-09-2012, 02:40 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by GaryL View Post
                              That's a real beauty...a great addition to our American Association collection!
                              It really is. It goes to show how much scope and grandeur we missed for almost a year having our amazing collection down-sized. The glory and the Majesty is back in the house. Glory Be and Hallelujah!

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                              • Originally posted by Bill Burgess View Post
                                It really is. It goes to show how much scope and grandeur we missed for almost a year having our amazing collection down-sized. The glory and the Majesty is back in the house. Glory Be and Hallelujah!
                                Indeed!
                                Finding a great picture is one thing...editing it and presenting it here is another.
                                ENJOY!
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