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  • 1901-1912 Chicago Cubs

    I'd like to showcase one of the great teams of history, The 1906-12 Chicago Cubs. This team sported 4 Hall of Famers. Frank Chance, Mordecai 'Three-Finger' Brown, Johnny Evers and Joe Tinker.

    Many people feel that only the famous poem, 'Tinkers to Evers to Chance' accounted for Tinker and Evers getting elected to the Hall of Fame. The team featured other superlative players, such as Ed Reulbach, Johnny Kling, Jimmy Sheckard and Jimmy Archer.

    The 1903 to 1920 Cubs' team finished first 5 times, came in second or third 8 times and finished lower than third 5 times. Plus that team had the greatest 1 year run, 2 year run, 3 year run, 4 year run, 5 year run, 6 year run, 7 year run, 8 year run, 9 year run, and 10 year run. From 1876 to 1938 nobody in baseball had more wins than the Cubs. In that time they went to 11 World Series. Won the pennant 15 times,finished 2nd or 3rd 21 times, and had the greatest stretch of consecutive seasons 1 through 10 years. That is 63 seasons stretching over 7 different decades.

    1906 Cubs---116-36, .763, 20 g ahead, (WS: L 4-2 to White Sox)
    1907 Cubs---107-45, .704, 17 ahead, (WS: W 4-0-1 over Tigers)
    1908 Cubs---99-55, .643, 1 g ahead, (WS: W 4-1 over Tigers)
    1909 Cubs---104-44, .680, 2nd Pl, 6.5 g behind
    1910 Cubs---104-50, .675, 13 g ahead, (WS: L 4-1 to A's)
    1911 Cubs---92-62, .597, 2nd Pl, 7.5 g behind
    1912 Cubs---91-59, .607, 3rd Pl, 11.5 g behind
    1913 Cubs---88-65, .575, 3rd Pl, 13.5 g behind

    1902–1913: A Cub dynasty
    In 1902, Spalding, who by this time had revamped the roster to boast what would soon be one of the best teams of the early century, sold the club to Jim Hart, and the franchise became known as the Chicago Cubs.[7] During this period, which has become known as baseball's dead-ball era, three Cub infielders; Joe Tinker, Johnny Evers, and Frank Chance were made famous as a double-play combination by Franklin P. Adams' poem Baseball's Sad Lexicon. The poem first appeared in the July 18, 1910 edition of the New York Evening Mail. Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown, Jack Taylor, Ed Reulbach, Jack Pfiester and Orval Overall were several key pitchers for the Cubs during this time period. With Chance acting as player-manager from 1905 to 1912 the Cubs won four pennants and two World Series titles over a five-year span. Although they fell to the White Sox in the 1906 World Series, The Cubs recorded a record 116 victories and the best winning percentage (.763) in Major League history. With mostly the same roster, Chicago won back to back World Series championships in 1907 and 1908. Their appearance in 3 consecutive World Series made the Cubs the first Major League Club to play 3 times in the Fall Classic. Likewise, their back-to-back World Series victories in 1907 and 1908 made them the first club to win 2 World Series.

    The next season, veteran catcher Johnny Kling left the team to become a professional pocket billiards player. Some historians think Kling's absence was significant enough to prevent the Cubs from also winning a third straight title in 1909, as they finished 6 games out of first place. When Kling returned the next year, the Cubs won the pennant again, but lost to the Philadelphia Athletics in the 1910 World Series.

  • #2
    That 1906 Cubs' 116-36 W-L record simply astounds me to this day.
    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis


    • #3
      1906 Chicago Cubs at wikipedia

      The Chicago Cubs' 1906 season was a season in American baseball. It involved the Cubs winning the National League pennant.

      Led by new manager Frank Chance, the Cubs dominated the NL. They led the league in both runs scored and fewest runs allowed by large margins. Their record of 116 has never been beaten to date. However, it was tied in 2001 by the Seattle Mariners. In a huge upset, they were beaten by the Chicago White Sox in the World Series. Despite this, the club is still considered one of the greatest baseball teams of all-time.

      It included four future Hall of Famers: first baseman Frank Chance, second baseman Johnny Evers, shortstop Joe Tinker, and pitcher Mordecai Brown. Brown finished second in the NL in wins to Joe McGinnity, but his 1.04 ERA set a National League record that has only been seriously challenged once, when Bob Gibson of the St. Louis Cardinals finished the 1968 season with a 1.12 ERA.

      The offensive star was third baseman Harry Steinfeldt, who led the NL in both hits and RBI.

      Regular season

      The 1906 Cubs won a record 116 of 154 games.
      National League W L GB Pct.
      Chicago Cubs 116 36 -- .763 
      New York Giants 96 56 20 .632 
      Pittsburgh Pirates 93 60 23.5 .608 
      Philadelphia Phillies 71 82 45.5 .464 
      Brooklyn Superbas 66 86 50 .434 
      Cincinnati Reds 64 87 51.5 .424 
      St. Louis Cardinals 52 98 63 .347 
      Boston Beaneaters 49 102 66.5 .325
      Note: Pos = Position; G = Games played; AB = At bats; H = Hits; Avg. = Batting average; HR = Home runs; RBI = Runs batted in
      Pos   Player   G   AB   H   Avg.   HR   RBI   
      1B Chance, Frank 136 474 151 .319 3 71 
      2B Evers, Johnny 154 533 136 .255 1 51 
      3B Steinfeldt, Harry 151 539 176 .327 3 83 
      SS Tinker, Joe 148 523 122 .233 1 64
      AL Chicago White Sox (4) vs NL Chicago Cubs (2)

      Game Score Date Location Attendance 
      1 White Sox - 2, Cubs - 1 October 9 West Side Park 12,693 
      2 Cubs - 7, White Sox - 1 October 10 South Side Park 12,595 
      3 White Sox - 3, Cubs - 0 October 11 West Side Park 13,667 
      4 Cubs - 1, White Sox - 0 October 12 South Side Park 18,385 
      5 White Sox - 8, Cubs - 6 October 13 West Side Park 23,257 
      6 Cubs - 3, White Sox - 8 October 14 South Side Park 19,249
      Last edited by Bill Burgess; 06-05-2013, 01:56 PM.


      • #4
        Cubs dynasty 1906-1910
        Cubs dynasty lasted for five years but what a run from the famous Merkle game to the greatest team ever 1907 cubs lets go by year:

        1906 Chicago Cubs
        Home Field: West Side Grounds
        N.L. Champions
        W - 116 L - 36 .763 best all time percentage
        Manager: Frank Chance

        Starting a great run over the next several years. The 1906 Cubs won 116 games, more than any team in baseball history.Chicago's pitchers boasted a 1.76 staff ERA Three Finger Brown won 26 games and had a 1.04 ERA. Jack Pfiester was 20-8 with a 1.56 ERA and Ed Reulbach was 19-4 and 1.65. Cubs famous double play team of shortstop Joe Tinker, second baseman Johnny Evers, and first baseman Frank Chance. Catcher Johnny Kling, and third baseman Harry Steinfeldt all topped the .300 mark. 20 game lead over the National League's second best team. They were a confident team, perhaps too much so, as they met the hitless wonders white sox in baseball's third World Series.In perhaps the greatest upset in post-season history, the Cubs lost the World Series four games to two.

        1907 Chicago Cubs
        Home Field: West Side Grounds
        N.L. Champions
        W - 107 L - 45 .704
        Manager: Frank Chance

        Many say the best team ever played the game
        The 1907 cubs won a 107 games behind great pitching which rang up the lowest team earned run average in baseball history. Using an arsenal of fastballs, curves, changeups and legal spitballs the Cubs pitchers produced a team 1.73 ERA the lowest team average ever. Five of the Cubs pitchers finished in the top six in National League in ERA.

        Player Wins ERA IP
        Orval Overall 23 1.68 268.1
        Mordecai Brown 20 1.39 233
        Carl Lundgren 18 1.17 207
        Jack Pfiester 14 1.15 195
        Ed Reulbach 17 1.69 192
        Chick Fraser 8 2.28 138.1
        Jack Taylor 7 3.29 123

        Back in the World Series after its shocking upset in 1906, this time the Chicago Cubs left nothing to chance, sweeping the Tigers. Game 1 resulted in a 3-3 tie, called on account of darkness after 12 innings. The Cubs were quickly becoming baseball's first "dynasty" making their second post-season championship appearance, They had outstanding offense from Steinfeldt and Evers, who batted .471 and .350, respectively (with Steinfeldt getting seven hits in the last three games of the Series and Evers getting seven in the first three games). stealing seven bases in Game 1 and finishing the Series with eighteen. Chicago's pitching staff held a potentially threatening Tigers line-up to forty-three scoreless innings out of forty-eight and shut down the American League's top hitter of 1907, Ty Cobb Cobb managed only a .200 average in the Series after batting .350 in the regular season

        1908 Chicago Cubs
        Home Field: West Side Grounds
        N.L. Champions
        W-99 L-55 .643
        Manager: Frank Chance

        The Cubs became the first team to record three consecutive World Series appearances and two consecutive World Series victories they had just become sports first official "dynasty".
        The Chicago club featured two twenty-game winners, Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown,a career-high 29 and Ed Reulbach, and the fabled double play combination of Joe Tinker, Johnny Evers,their only .300 hitter.

        This was the year of the infamous "Merkle" the last game of the season Merkle did not step on second base on a winning hit for the Giants therefore run was nullified, the Giants' victory erased, and the score of the game remained tied causing the game to be replayed and the Cubs to reach the World Series in a one-game playoff. Thank you Bonehead.

        The 1908 World Series matched the defending champion Chicago Cubs against the Detroit Tigers. In this first-ever rematch of this young event, Game 1 recalled memories of the previous year's opener as the Tigers held a surprising lead going into the ninth inning. Ed Simmons retired Johnny Evers to open the inning, The twenty-four game winner was two outs away from Series leading victory, when suddenly everything went bad. Simmons yielded six consecutive hits resulting in five runs. Chicago won 10-6, true champs always win the tuff ones.The cubs went on to win three out of the next four and a second consecutive title. The final game in Detroit saw 6,210 fans turn out for the smallest crowd in Series history.

        1909 Chicago Cubs
        Home Field: West Side Grounds
        Finished 2nd in N. L.
        W-104 L-49
        Manager: Frank Chance

        The 1909 Chicago Cubs won 104 games but finished second in the National
        League, behind the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Cubs had won the pennant the
        previous three years and would win it again in 1910.

        The legendary infield of Joe Tinker, Johnny Evers, Frank Chance, and
        Harry Steinfeldt was still intact, but it was the pitching staff that
        excelled. Chicago's pitching continued to be its strongest suit.

        Three Finger Brown had a 27-9, 1.31 ERA
        Orvall Overall was 20-11 with a 1.42 ERA
        Ed Reulbach won 19 games and had a 1.78 ERA.

        The Cubs pitchers had a collective earned run average of 1.75, a microscopic
        figure even for the dead-ball era.

        Catcher Johnny Kling, In early 1909 he won the World Pocket Billiards
        Championship and stopped playing baseball to defend that title.and resulted in a off year.

        A few more records-The Cubs beat Boston a National League record 21 times during the season.-Cub Jimmy Sheckard collects a National League record 46 sacrifice hits.-The Cubs win 104 games, the most ever by a runner-up team.

        1910 Chicago Cubs
        Home Field: West Side Grounds
        N.L. Champions
        W-104 L-50 .675
        Manager: Frank Chance

        The cubs led the NL agian with an ERA of 2.51 of course Mordecai Brown led the pitching staff with 25 wins and 143 strikeouts.

        After a year off, the Cubs returned to the World Series for the fourth time in five seasons, and came in rated as favorites over the youthful Athletics The Cubs avoided an embarrassing sweep with a 4-3 victory in Game 4 The glory years came to a end. Tinker and Evers reportedly could not stand each other, and rarely spoke off the field. Evers, a high-strung, argumentative man, suffered a nervous breakdown in 1911 and did not play much. Chance suffered a near-fatal beaning the same year. The trio played together little after that. In 1913, Chance went to manage the New York Yankees and Tinker went to Cincinnati to manage the Reds, and that was the end of one of the most notable infields in baseball. They were inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame together in 1946.

        Jimmy Archer became the first player to appear in a World Series for both the National and American leagues when he took the field in Game 3 for Chicago. Archer played for the Tigers in the 1907 World Series
        Posted by mksprng at 9:51 AM


        • #5
          And lest anyone feel that the record 116 wins that the Cubbies recorded in 1906 was only due a soft league, please remember that the Giants and Pirates were also strong brothers to contend with.

          The Braves, Cardinals, Reds, Superbas (Dodgers) and Phillies were the weak sisters that season.
          Last edited by Bill Burgess; 05-05-2012, 02:26 PM.


          • #6
            Prior to the 1909 season, Kling won the world billiards championship and sat out the 1909 baseball season to play professionally. The Cubs did not win the pennant in 1909. The Pirates beat them out.

            However, as baseball fate would have it, the Cubs found another fine defensive catcher in Jimmy Archer. He had an iron arm and threw out base-stealers from his haunches, without rising from his crouch.

            After failing to defend his billiards crown, Johnny returned to the Cubs in 1910, once again leading the team to the World Series.

            Kling was traded to the Boston Braves in 1911 and managed the team to a last-place finish, while hitting .317, in 1912. He was traded to the Cincinnati Reds in 1913 and spent his last big league season there under his former teammate, skipper Joe Tinker.

            Anyone care to tell the story between Johnny, Jimmy Archer and the Cubs' team? Brian McKenna?


            • #7
              -------------------------------------------------The Johnny Kling Story,
              as told by Gil Bogen and Dave Anderson for the

              Johnny Kling
              by Gil Bogen and Dave Anderson

              Arguably one of the most overlooked star players of the Dead Ball Era, catcher Johnny Kling was key part of the great Chicago Cubs Dynasty of 1906-10. When his baseball career was over, Kling returned to his hometown of Kansas City, Missouri where he enjoyed a successful business career. A modest man, Kling never thought anyone would be interested in his accomplishments as a player once he retired.

              John Kling fell in love with the game at an early age, but he was required to help his father with the family bakery business. His job was to drive a horse drawn wagon and deliver bread to waiting customers. Every morning, the clang of the family alarm started John on his route, making deliveries. The story is told that the route never grew in numbers and the elder Kling started to learn why. An irate housewife informed the bakery proprietor she would take bread from a competitor since the Kling wagon never reached her house on time.

              One morning, Kling's father started out on the trail of Johnny and found the horse meandering down the road. Where was Johnny? A great deal of noise over in a corner field, where a baseball game was in progress, revealed the truth about the undelivered bread. Did the elder Kling use a paddle on youthful Johnny? Only history knows.
              Those good old corner lot days were soon over. In 1890, at age fifteen, he pitched for the Haverlys and led the team to an amateur league championship. At age 16 Johnny got on a team that had real honest to goodness uniforms. It was the SIBER meat market team, sponsored by John Siber, a butcher. Two years later he joined the Schmeltzers, during the two-year term with the team he pitched, played first base and managed. In 1895 he was given a tryout with St. Louis but was not given a contract because he was too small.

              In 1896 he joined Texas of the Texas League and in 1897 he was with the Emporia team. His size again played a role in 1898, when Rockford dropped him because he was too small. He then went back to the Schmeltzers. When he joined the team, they made him a catcher, where he was destined to shine brilliantly in the annals of the national pastime.
              In 1899 he went on a barnstorming trip with Kansas City of the Western League. While at a game in Atchison he was noticed by Manager McKibben of the St. Joseph club. In 1900 he began to play with St. Joseph, but in late summer Ted Sullivan found him and signed him for the Chicago Colts. He made his major league debut in September 1900 with the team, he played fifteen games and hit .294 earning a chance to return to the major leagues. Sullivan, ironically was a boyhood friend of White Sox owner Charles Comiskey.

              In 1901 Kling shared catching duties with Mike Kahoe and Frank Chance. He appeared in 69 games behind the plate, hitting a respectable .277. It was clear that manager Tom Loftus' catcher, Frank Chance, had difficulty in handling foul tips. In 1902 new Cub skipper Frank Sellee decided that Chance would be his permanent first baseman and Kling his full time catcher. The addition of Joe Tinker at shortstop established the nucleus of a team that would terrorize the National League later in the decade. Kling responded to full time duties by leading the league in putouts, assists and double plays. At bat in 1902 he hit .286 and led the Chicago Nationals in RBI with 57, while batting eighth in the order.

              During the Dead Ball Era a strong defensive catcher was a key component of any great team, due to the emphasis on bunting and base stealing. Kling was the dominant defensive catcher during the first ten years of the twentieth century. From 1902 through 1908 he led the National League in fielding percentage four times, putouts six, assists twice and double plays once. Cub pitcher Ed Reulbach called Kling one of the greatest catchers to ever wear a mask. In June, 1907 he threw out all four Cardinal runners who tried to steal second, and in the World Series he gunned down 7 of 14 Tiger runners, holding base stealing champion Ty Cobb to no stolen bases.

              As his 1902 figures showed, he was no easy out at bat and was a strong contributor to the Cub offense. In 1906 he hit .312 and batted in 46 runs on the Cub team that won more games than any other team in history. Kling had a career batting average of .272.

              His contemporaries, team mates and opponents alike, marveled at his ability to defend, handle pitchers and take part in the psychological warfare which was baseball in the early twentieth century. Johnny Evers claimed Kling could tell pitchers what their best stuff was during warm-ups. He kept up a steady string of chatter earning him the nickname 'Noisy.' Evers praised Kling for his ability to work umpires on balls and strikes, yet Kling avoided antagonizing the men in blue, even warning them if an unusual play or pitch was coming.

              In an era where many players could be best described as social outcasts, Kling was different. He did not smoke, chew or drink. His grandchildren say he was kind and tended toward spoiling his children. His eldest daughter was mascot of the Braves during the time her Daddy was manager. Some insight into Kling's character comes from the biography of former baseball commissioner Ford Frick. In Games, Asterisks and People, Frick describes attending an exhibition game involving the Cubs in 1907 in Kendallville, Indiana. As the Cubs were walking to the ballpark, Kling asked the young Frick if he wanted to go to the game. When Frick said yes, Kling had the future baseball tsar carry his shoes. Once at the game Frick was allowed to sit near the bench and see his Cub heroes in action and hear their bench talk between innings.

              Kling's difference from other Dead Ball Era players extended to his approach to life. Baseball was a job that opened doors for other opportunities. In other words, he was not a baseball lifer. He had other skills to fall back on, thus his yearly contract talks with Cub owner Frank Murphy often resembled a game of chicken, more than a negotiation.

              Following the Cubs' championship year in 1908, Kling won the world pocket billiards championship. He then invested about $50,000 in a billiard emporium in Kansas City, informed Murphy of the investment and requested an indefinite leave of absence. Murphy granted this in writing and Kling promised that if he could subsequently arrange his affairs so that he could leave his business in the hands of others, he would join the team. The arrangement was on the best of terms according to the investigative report by the National Commission in 1910, when Kling had applied for reinstatement into baseball. This story, as told in the Commission's report, varies with news articles that described Kling as a holdout, unable to negotiate a satisfactory contract with Murphy. But those statements were not true. Kling had a valid contract for 1907, '08 and '09 as pointed out in the Commission's report. And in spite of receiving an indefinite leave from Murphy, Kling was held to be in violation of his contract for not playing. He was fined $700 and allowed to return to the Chicago team. He was given a $4500 salary, the same as in 1908.

              The 1909 hiatus was costly for Kling and the Cubs. The year marked the first since 1906 that the Cubs did not win the pennant, they finished second to the Pirates. As for Kling, he failed to defend his billiards championship.

              Kling always maintained that players should learn a lesson from him and stay in the game until they were ready to retire. Despite his clean living habits, Kling found it hard to regain the skills that he had just a few years previous. In 1911 he was traded to the Boston Braves, some claimed as punishment for his holdout and poor performance against Philadelphia in the 1910 World Series. He played and managed for the Braves in 1912. He hit .317, but the team finished dead last at 52-101. His playing career ended in 1913 in Cincinnati.

              Upon retirement Kling returned to his native Kansas City where he continued on with a career in real estate, one he had started while playing baseball. He became a successful businessman. He had a knack for developing real estate and amassing wealth. Kling had a compassionate side as well, and would quickly make out a check when a friend was in need. During World War I, he volunteered his services to the military and taught and coached baseball at Camp Funston, Kansas. Kling was a doting parent and his family never wanted for the basic comforts, even during the height of the Great Depression.

              In 1933 he bought the Kansas City Blues and promptly eliminated segregated seating at Meuhlebach Stadium, which happened to also be the home of the Monarchs of the Negro Leagues. This policy remained in effect until Kling sold the club in 1937 to Col. Jacob Ruppert of the New York Yankees.

              Kling was a private man who preferred life out of the spotlight. We do know he cared little about what others thought or said about him. Some historians claim he was among the first Jewish baseball stars, but such an assertion is still a matter for debate. In a February 12, 1969 letter, Kling's wife said he was baptized Lutheran. In a December 2, 1948 letter, she claimed "he was baptized in the Baptist Church." Nobody seems to have questioned the contradiction nor her motivation for making these statements. Kling's grandson, also named John Kling, recently claimed that his grandfather was definitely Jewish. Membership records for B'nai Jehudah Temple, in Kansas City, Missouri, of close family members, in addition to other records, supports the Jewish heritage issue. Nevertheless, the issue continues to be matter for debate.

              Who should one believe? Either way, Kling cared little about what people said about his religion. It was something he chose not to discuss. His focus was on the task before him. And overall, he was successful in whatever venture he took on, be it baseball, business or desegregating seating in the Kansas City ballpark. He was a man with ideas who met challenges head on. He was a man with lofty ideals, a man before his time.


              Dave Anderson and Gil Bogan have had a number of conversations about Kling. Much of the material for this biography was from Dave's book More than Merkle and Gil's upcoming book on Johnny Kling's life.


              • #8
                Frank Selee led the Cubs from 1902 until mid-1905 and they were a very good team by 1903. Today we would call that Johnny Evers' rookie season and Frank Chance's breakout. Mordecai Brown joined the team in 1904, Ed Reulbach in 1905.

                1903 Cubs-- 82-56 .594, 8 gb
                1904 Cubs-- 93-60 .608, 13.5 gb
                1905 Cubs-- 92-61 .601, 13 gb


                • #9
                  Ubi posted this on another thread. Thanks, Ubi.
                  Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                  The Chicago team of the National League from 1876 to 1891 won the pennant 6 times and finished second or third 6 other times. Appeared in two World Series and won one of them.

                  The 1903 to 1920 Cubs team finished first 5 times, came in second or third 8 times and finished lower than third 5 times. Plus that team had the greatest 1 year run, 2 year run, 3 year run, 4 year run, 5 year run, 6 year run, 7 year run, 8 year run, 9 year run, and 10 year run.
                  Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                  Okay then, from 1876 to 1938 nobody in baseball had more wins than the Cubs. In that time they went to 11 World Series. Won the pennant 15 times,finished 2nd or 3rd 21 times, and had the greatest stretch of consecutive seasons 1 through 10 years. That is 63 seasons stretching over 7 different decades.


                  • #10
                    The 1906 Cubs pitching staff led their league in:

                    fewest runs
                    most wins
                    lowest ERA
                    most shutouts
                    most complete game shutouts
                    fewest hits allowed
                    Fewest HR allowed
                    most strikeouts
                    lowest WHIP
                    fewest hits/9 innings
                    Most strikeouts/9 innings

                    Yeah, they were pretty good
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                    • #11
                      This is truly one of the great teams in MLB history, and one that rarely gets mentioned with the likes of the '29 A's or '39 Yanks etc.

                      Funny thing, Brown and Chance are easy HOFers, Tinker and Evers really didn't deserve the honor. But with that said, this team was loaded beyond these four. Overall, Steinfeldt, Schulte, Pfister, Kling, Archer,and Reulbach all could have been all-stars had their been such a thing. They played smart, heady ball and rarely beat themselves. Truly underrated IMO.
                      “Well, I like to say I’m completely focused, right? I mean, the game’s on the line. It’s not like I’m thinking about what does barbecue Pop Chips and Cholula taste like. Because I already know that answer — it tastes friggin’ awesome!"--Brian Wilson


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KHenry14
                        But with that said, this team was loaded beyond these four. Overall, Steinfeldt, Schulte, Pfister, Kling, Archer,and Reulbach all could have been all-stars had their been such a thing. They played smart, heady ball and rarely beat themselves. Truly underrated IMO.
                        With Tinker, Evers, Chance, Kling, Archer, Sheckard, they were quite a good defensive squad. Add their tight pitching and they were hard to beat.


                        • #13
                          Can anybody provide any more information about the "J. McCormick" who appears in several of the pictures and is identified as a coach?
                          “Money, money, money; that is the article I am looking after now more than anything else. It is the only thing that will shape my course (‘religion is nowhere’).” - Ross Barnes


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Beady
                            Can anybody provide any more information about the "J. McCormick" who appears in several of the pictures and is identified as a coach?
                            I nosed around, trying to find some information on him. I'll keep looking but so far, here's the most likely stuff I have found.

                            He was a ML pitcher, 1878-87.

                            Here's his BB Ref. I need to do some more looking, but that's the most likely so far. Stay tuned.


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bill Burgess
                              I nosed around, trying to find some information on him. I'll keep looking but so far, here's the most likely stuff I have found.

                              He was a ML pitcher, 1878-87.

                              Here's his BB Ref. I need to do some more looking, but that's the most likely so far. Stay tuned.
                              He was the first player born in Scotland to play in what can be considered "The Bigs" at the time, and was one of the Old Cubs... you know, Cap Anson and those fellows, and one of those finish what you start starting pitchers and still ranks very high on the all-time complete games list:

                              I think this is the same fellow.
                              Your Second Base Coach
                              Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.


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