The Bitter Rivals Thread

[YankeeMan]

How the East was won!

The Yankees have 10 games left and...
The BoSox have 11 games left to lose, err I mean "play."

If the Yankees go 5-5 they will have went 99-63
The Red Sox would have to go 11-0! to catch them.

[bigtime39]

Originally posted by YankeeMan
Besides, our rightfielder next year will be an upgrade!

Can you say "Vlad?"

I CAN say "Vlad." I'm going to be saying it a lot next season regarding the ORIOLES right fielder. VG would be even LESS comfortable in NYCs media snake pit than was R Alomar, and he almost sunk his career there!

[bigtime39]

ORIOLES 5, ATMs 3

My boy, Eric DuBose (he's my boy 'cause, like me, he wears the magical #59) put up yet another quality start tonight, beating King George's Cash Machine 5-3. Who you gonna fear NEXT YEAR when we have FOUR left handed starting pitchers, Vlad G in right and Tejada at short? My O's, that's who! Also, kudos to Juan Rivera (right #, WRONG TEAM!) for his dinger tonight! D****d glad it didn't make a difference in the game!

[NickG]

Originally posted by bigtime39
I CAN say "Vlad." I'm going to be saying it a lot next season regarding the ORIOLES right fielder. VG would be even LESS comfortable in NYCs media snake pit than was R Alomar, and he almost sunk his career there!

I've got Vlad going to LA, where there is a much larger hispanic contingent and where his struggling English wouldn't be as much of a media problem as it is in Montréal, but who's counting ?

I've also heard Miami among his potential destinations for the same reason, but there's no way that's happening with the cheap band of monkeys that currently run the Marlins.

[KenFougere]

Re: Re: How Do You Motivate Millionaires?

Originally posted by Hammerin Hank
How did he know?

This year, thank God, was the exception to the rule...


BTW...How long ago did I post that, sometime in May?[/I]

[KenFougere]

Re: How the East was won!

Originally posted by YankeeMan
The Yankees have 10 games left and...
The BoSox have 11 games left to lose, err I mean "play."

If the Yankees go 5-5 they will have went 99-63
The Red Sox would have to go 11-0! to catch them.

[B][SIZE=4][COLOR=red]Let's see who's improved over last year?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [list]
[B][I][SIZE=3][COLOR=firebrick][*]Boston Red Sox[*]AL East W  L   PCT   GB  HOME  ROAD   RS   RA[*]2002    93 69 .574  10.5 42-39  51-30  859 665[*]2003    88 63 .583   5.5 49-27  39-36  908 763
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B] 
[B][I][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkblue]
[*]New York Yankees[*]AL East  W  L   PCT   HOME  ROAD   RS    RA[*]2002   103 58  .640  52-28  51-30  897  697[*]2003    94 58  .618  47-31  47-27  825  690
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B] [/list]

One team has improved this season.... and the other, not so much!

This time your Star-studded team has a few holes in it!

[Mattingly]

Hey, Ken, how many of those runs scored happened last night? Did um's have lots of fun getting smacked around by the Milk-Toothed Triple-A's?

There's a strangle little rule in baseball, that you could win 15-14 or 100-0, guess what? You've still won all of *one* game. I mean, look at the 1960 WS. The Yanks outscored the Pirates badly, but they won in the 7th game, 9th inning. Offensive stats are nice, but it's all of one game in the end.

All these great offensive stats, why aren't you leading us? I mean, we may not win games by batting around much or scored 20 runs, but at least we haven't been burned by TB or Baltimore.

Now then, please let me know when you're all set to suffer a massive defeat at the hands of the usual suspects. I'll invite Bucky and the newest Honorary Yankee, the Mookster!

The winner, and *new* baddest man on the planet, the TB Milk Tooths! Snarling at a gigantic 98 lbs, they managed to get 7 runs, 16 hits and no errors off Beantown at Fenway. The loser, and still defeated, with no runs, 6 hits and 2 errors, Beantown!

CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/t...px?GAMEID=6280

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Mattingly
I think that Leiter did pretty well today also.

What about Glavine, another vet? How come he's had so much trouble this season?

So who are the Mets pitchers you think have done well with Piazza? Both vets and newbies.

For Posada, I think the following have done well this season: Clemens, Moose, Pettitte, Contreras (except for the Boston game). BTW, Jeff Weaver's hopeless (almost).

From the pen, I'd also include Mo Rivera, Gabe White, Felix Heredia as doing nicely with Posada.

As to comparing the two, I'm not so sure. Posada is an OBP/walk machine who's done this quite a bit. He's missed his share of foul tips, but he's also thrown out a few. I'm not sure I could really compare the two. I remember that while Piazza does great at blocking the plate, popups seemed like an adventure, and Posada does get lots of those, including leaning into dugouts or the 1st row, and a few at the edge of the back screen.

Everybody has done better since the return of Piazza, maybe it's just familiarity? Could be. I really don't know what's going on with Glavine. Maybe just another guy who can't play in New York? I hope not.

The defense of the two evens out somewhat, but Piazza provides the better offense, which is why I'd name him the better player.

[Sandman]

Re: Re: How the East was won!

Originally posted by KenFougere

[B][SIZE=4][COLOR=red]Let's see who's improved over last year?[/COLOR][/SIZE] [list]
[B][I][SIZE=3][COLOR=firebrick][*]Boston Red Sox[*]AL East W  L   PCT   GB  HOME  ROAD   RS   RA[*]2002    93 69 .574  10.5 42-39  51-30  859 665[*]2003    88 63 .583   5.5 49-27  39-36  908 763
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B] 
[B][I][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkblue]
[*]New York Yankees[*]AL East  W  L   PCT   HOME  ROAD   RS    RA[*]2002   103 58  .640  52-28  51-30  897  697[*]2003    94 58  .618  47-31  47-27  825  690
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B] [/list]

One team has improved this season.... and the other, not so much!

This time your Star-studded team has a few holes in it! [/B]

I hate to be defending the Yankees, but it is pretty hard to improve on a 100+ win season, and they still have the best record in the AL.

[YankeeMan]

Beantown Follies!

I'm wondering how they define "improvement" in Beantown -- isn't this going to be the sixth year in a row that the BoSox have finished in second place?
Hmmm, I wonder who finished in first place during these last six years?

[Sandman]

How long has it been since Boston has won the AL East title? Because if I'm not mistaken, 6 years ago, it was the O's.

[tearforamariner]

Originally posted by Sandman
How long has it been since Boston has won the AL East title? Because if I'm not mistaken, 6 years ago, it was the O's.

They last won it in 1995.

[YankeeMan]

Originally posted by tearforamariner
They last won it in 1995.

...and then got swept away by the Indians.

[baseballwise]

Shame on you!

Ken, you have really disappointed me by falling into the Bill Buckner scapegoat pit. (I'm referring to "...the Buckner-Mookie thing...." you mentioned above.)

We both know you know exactly what happened with the demise of the Red Sox TEAM in game six. If Shiraldi and the "gang" would've done their jobs, Buckner's error would just be another notation on the box score of that game. We all know that!

I'm a Bill Buckner fan AND a baseball fan, and your remark short changes them both.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it grinds on my nerves to hear that old trashing of Billy Buck. He had one of the great careers and should be remembered for his accomplishments.

It's easier to throw sand in somebody's face than to build a sand castle. Figure that out [email protected]##@%@*&^&*&^%$!!......... :-)

[Mattingly]

Re: Shame on you!

Originally posted by baseballwise
Ken, you have really disappointed me by falling into the Bill Buckner scapegoat pit. (I'm referring to "...the Buckner-Mookie thing...." you mentioned above.)

I'm curious, how long ago did he say this? I don't see it on the last 2 pages.

In case anyone's interested, this thread discusses Buckner's involvement in this.