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  • Originally posted by efin98 View Post
    Aw, it's nice to know you cared :o

    I'm proud of it, the guy reminds me of John Arbuckle, owner of Garfield
    You mean the cartoon Garfield, which is a cat that rivals "Heathcliff"?

    Wow, someone from the New York area making sense...who are you and what have you done with Mattingley!
    I don't know. I just figured that sometimes, I just need to say what's on my mind, not get too fancy. Honesty usually comes out, but other times, I need to edit some stuff out.

    Ignoring that he's been dropping in stats the last two years and on the back side of his career(HOF in either 2018/2019/2020). He's on the decline, but from some decent hights a steady decline doesn't look all that bad but it's decline.

    And I have never found him to be as good as he is made out to be even before the rivalry exploded in 1999, I had a dislike for him dating back to 1997 and 1998 when it was him, Nomar, and A-Rod as the big three in the AL for shortstops. I just don't get the love affair with him.
    He's not the clutch hitter he was before.

    He's still a good hitter. I don't know if he'd be a star hitter, but he's gotten key singles and doubles many times. I know that having great stats mean you create those runs, but if your team is losing, you want timely hitting, not just when your team is up by a wide margin.

    1999 was his best year. Some said that the 10-year deal got to him, and he didn't seem as hungry. He hit like nobody's business, and like some other players, didn't seem to play as hard. He still busts it out of the box, and your own Mike Lowell said he'd never had a bad thing to say about him. Jeter still plays a good fundamental ballgame. I just wish he'd ground out and GIDP a few times less often.

    I have no idea what the Yanks will do with him after 2010 when he's a free agent. Kind of like a situation where you don't know what to do with someone if they're not producing. You can't fire him, you can't just ask him to go away. A PR nightmare, like when my namesake retired, and when the Yanks offered a Minor League contract to Bernie. Some people are just so closely linked with the Yanks, you have to keep them within the organization, even if not as a player. I think that he'll do fine later on.

    As far as the love affair, it's not that he's such a great player. He's just played a sound ballgame, and he doesn't get picked off, he hustles out of the box, he hits to RF at Yankee Stadium, despite being a righty, he's had his share of highlight reels. Perhaps not the best defensively, but he makes the most of what he has. Then there's his easy smile.

    He's never had any paternity cases against him, no ugly celebrity breakups, no woman has ever accused him of beating her up, no DWI or narcotics arrests, no weapons charges, he hasn't assaulted anyone in a bar, he hasn't been known to travel with a large set of friends who make their presence conspicuously known, he hasn't had his four bodyguards beat up any photographers for daring to take his picture (or even leaning on his very fancy SUV). Not that he has such large groups of friends or vehicles, but he hasn't been the typical "nouveau celebrity" who seem to want to attract more attention than anything else by badgering those who'd dare to seek their attention (or heaven forbid, an autograph).

    He's far from perfect, but considering how many other star athletes have gotten themselves in major trouble, you'd have wondered how they even became celebrities in the first place. Jeter handles himself quite well, which is a breath of fresh air, considering how unsafe a gamble that some athletes are for marketers, with their penchant for getting into trouble with the law.

    At least it wasn't at home, you guys have had enough bashing about that place as is!
    Hopefully, more good games at home ... against Beantown and Anaheim ... and on the road at Fenway and elsewhere.
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    • I'm gonna tell you a story
      I'm gonna tell you about my town
      I'm gonna tell you a big bad story, baby
      Aww, it's all about my town
      Yeah, down by the river
      Down by the banks of the river Charles
      (aw, that's what's happenin' baby)
      That's where you'll find me
      Along with lovers, muggers, and thieves
      (aw, but they're cool people)
      Well I love that dirty water
      Oh, Boston, you're my home
      (oh, you're the Number One place)
      Frustrated women
      (I mean they're frustrated)
      Have to be in by twelve o'clock
      (oh, that's a shame)
      But I'm wishin' and a-hopin, oh
      That just once those doors weren't locked
      (I like to save time for my baby to walk around)
      Well I love that dirty water
      Oh, Boston, you're my home
      (oh, yeah)
      Because I love that dirty water
      Oh, oh, Boston, you're my home
      (oh, yeah)
      Well, I love that dirty water
      (I love it, baby)
      I love that dirty water
      (I love Baw-stun)
      I love that dirty water
      (Have you heard about the Strangler?)
      I love that dirty water
      (I'm the man, I'm the man)
      I love that dirty water
      (Owww!)
      I love that dirty water
      (Come on, come on)
      sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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      • I'm gonna tell you a story
        I'm gonna tell you about my town
        I'm gonna tell you a big bad story, baby
        Aww, it's all about my town
        Yeah, down by the river
        Down by the banks of the river Charles
        (aw, that's what's happenin' baby)
        That's where you'll find me
        Along with lovers, muggers, and thieves
        (aw, but they're cool people)
        Well I love that dirty water
        Oh, Boston, you're my home
        (oh, you're the Number One place)
        Frustrated women
        (I mean they're frustrated)
        Have to be in by twelve o'clock
        (oh, that's a shame)
        But I'm wishin' and a-hopin, oh
        That just once those doors weren't locked
        (I like to save time for my baby to walk around)
        Well I love that dirty water
        Oh, Boston, you're my home
        (oh, yeah)
        Because I love that dirty water
        Oh, oh, Boston, you're my home
        (oh, yeah)
        Well, I love that dirty water
        (I love it, baby)
        I love that dirty water
        (I love Baw-stun)
        I love that dirty water
        (Have you heard about the Strangler?)
        I love that dirty water
        (I'm the man, I'm the man)
        I love that dirty water
        (Owww!)
        I love that dirty water
        (Come on, come on)


        sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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        • Are you guys in panic mode yet?
          "I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
          Carl Yastrzemski

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          • Originally posted by SDL View Post
            Has anybody read this article?

            http://www.mensjournal.com/brian-cashman

            Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            the Insane Yankee Clown Posse.
            "I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
            Carl Yastrzemski

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            • Please read Baseball Fever Policy and Forum FAQ before posting. 2007-11 CBA
              Rest very peacefully, John “Buck” O'Neil (1911-2006) & Philip Francis “Scooter” Rizzuto (1917-2007)
              THE BROOKLYN DODGERS - 1890 thru 1957
              Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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              • Originally posted by runningshoes View Post
                Are you guys in panic mode yet?
                Nah, not really. I'm just wondering why Girardi can't ask his starters to walk Bay, and why our guys didn't see that Papelbon couldn't find the plate on Monday, but swung away and missed in the dirt anyway.

                This lack of discipline at the plate kills me.
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                Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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                • Hurts for a life-long Yankee fan to say, but at this point Boston has the better team and the better manager. I'll take flak for saying that, but it's the truth.

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                  • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                    Better stock up...







                    Gonna be a looooooong season in the Bronx
                    sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by sandlot View Post
                      Hurts for a life-long Yankee fan to say, but at this point Boston has the better team and the better manager. I'll take flak for saying that, but it's the truth.
                      You guys shot yourself in the foot by letting Torre go and hiring Joey Pitbull.
                      sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by SDL View Post
                        You guys shot yourself in the foot by letting Torre go and hiring Joey Pitbull.
                        You didn't see my name on the list of posse members. I had my own criticisms of Torre but sometimes when watching Girardi, it's like Torre II deja vu. Hard not to notice LA's performance.

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                        • Originally posted by SDL View Post
                          You guys shot yourself in the foot by letting Torre go and hiring Joey Pitbull.
                          I think that not having an ace hurt the Yanks more than anything else. In the past, we had guys like Boomer, Clemens. In 2008, no ace. Without Manny, LAD would never have caught up to Arizona last season.

                          Oh yeah, how's your DH doing these days? I've heard he has a special baseball card out. Where can I find that sucker? Oh yeah, here it is.

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                          Rest very peacefully, John “Buck” O'Neil (1911-2006) & Philip Francis “Scooter” Rizzuto (1917-2007)
                          THE BROOKLYN DODGERS - 1890 thru 1957
                          Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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                          • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                            I think that not having an ace hurt the Yanks more than anything else. In the past, we had guys like Boomer, Clemens. In 2008, no ace. Without Manny, LAD would never have caught up to Arizona last season.

                            Oh yeah, how's your DH doing these days? I've heard he has a special baseball card out. Where can I find that sucker? Oh yeah, here it is.

                            I ain't worried yet...
                            sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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                            • Originally posted by SDL View Post
                              I ain't worried yet...
                              Sure you ain't, pal. Just keep telling yourself that. Yeah, that's the ticket.



                              Please read Baseball Fever Policy and Forum FAQ before posting. 2007-11 CBA
                              Rest very peacefully, John “Buck” O'Neil (1911-2006) & Philip Francis “Scooter” Rizzuto (1917-2007)
                              THE BROOKLYN DODGERS - 1890 thru 1957
                              Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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                              • Last edited by Mattingly; 05-22-2009, 01:54 AM.
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                                Rest very peacefully, John “Buck” O'Neil (1911-2006) & Philip Francis “Scooter” Rizzuto (1917-2007)
                                THE BROOKLYN DODGERS - 1890 thru 1957
                                Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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