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  • Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
    Very simple: Yankees are the west county people: arrogant, spoiled, and have all the hardware (cash) to back up their smugness. You don't like them, but at least they aren't phony. The Red Sox are the St.Charles people - typicaly far inferior to the west county people (Yankees), but they are arrogant and smug anyway. A few recent instances of similar Yankee-like success makes them almost unberrable.
    All depends. If you're talking about people who actually love the players and the game, discuss the game wisely and know fans of other teams, I'd disagree. If referring to fans who act like it's so easy to beat other teams, act like the best free agents are theirs for the taking and expect opposing GMs to trade their best players for undesirable players like Igawa, Giambi, Matsui and Damon, then I'd agree. Every winning team has fans who are spoiled rotten.
    You could make a similar argument for Cardinal/Cub too.
    So who are the "haves" and the "have-nots" amongst the Cards and Cubbies?
    Seriously, nobody sees the irony in Rede Sox fans constantly trying to act like/prove their franchise is superior to the one that has won almost 1/4 of all WS titles?
    I don't know if the RS team is superior or not to the Yankee team. I just know that they've drafted quite well, if you look at people like Pedroia, Ellsbury, Papelbon , Youkilis (one "not one of my faves player"), and a few others.
    I am sure you understood the analogy, however.
    Not really. I've never considered myself as one of the "haves". I love the Yankee history like any other Yankee fan, but each year, the team must put up its skills an win those games. If not, the country club awaits you in October!
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    • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
      All depends. If you're talking about people who actually love the players and the game, discuss the game wisely and know fans of other teams, I'd disagree. If referring to fans who act like it's so easy to beat other teams, act like the best free agents are theirs for the taking and expect opposing GMs to trade their best players for undesirable players like Igawa, Giambi, Matsui and Damon, then I'd agree. Every winning team has fans who are spoiled rotten.
      Yeah. I am certainly not refering to the great fans around here- this site is known for its intelligent and courteous fans. I was focusing more on the perception of Yankees and Red Sox-ism more than fans. I wasn't trying to stir things up - just thinking aloud. Maybe the post ws ill-advised as an outsider. I guess you have to be a Yankees or Sox fan to get taken seriously when talking about the other side.

      You are right about every franchise having spoiled fans. Cardinal fans have a hard time putting some things into perspective as well.
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      • Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
        Yeah. I am certainly not refering to the great fans around here- this site is known for its intelligent and courteous fans. I was focusing more on the perception of Yankees and Red Sox-ism more than fans. I wasn't trying to stir things up - just thinking aloud. Maybe the post ws ill-advised as an outsider. I guess you have to be a Yankees or Sox fan to get taken seriously when talking about the other side.

        You are right about every franchise having spoiled fans. Cardinal fans have a hard time putting some things into perspective as well.
        Thats the truth, some get all over "some" Yankee fans. Yes some are obnoxious, probably from all the success over the years, not to excuse them but any other city would do the same, it just happened to be NY.

        Not much difference in fans in all the city, some good, some jerks.

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        • Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
          Yeah. I am certainly not refering to the great fans around here- this site is known for its intelligent and courteous fans. I was focusing more on the perception of Yankees and Red Sox-ism more than fans. I wasn't trying to stir things up - just thinking aloud. Maybe the post ws ill-advised as an outsider. I guess you have to be a Yankees or Sox fan to get taken seriously when talking about the other side.

          You are right about every franchise having spoiled fans. Cardinal fans have a hard time putting some things into perspective as well.
          Sometimes people get the wrong impression about Yankee fans. If you watch the games, you'll see what appears to be 55,000 Yankee fans, yet there's no such thing as a home game where no visiting fans are present. Never ever.

          There are countless Yankee fans who saw Mick in his heyday, but the prices and where they live have kept them away. They're still Yankee fans, but never to be seen on TV. A few have seen DiMaggio play, and a few I know of on another board saw Yogi's rook season (1947, but he played in 1946).

          I never get caught up in the thing about what is a "real Yankee" or a "real Yankee fan". So long as you respect the game, respect other fans and act like a good person, I don't worry too much. Now of course, if they root for the Red Sox ... , I may make an exception or two.
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          • Get bullied around by the "superior" team's "fans" for decades and see if you don't rub in your recent success in the face of the jerks...I'll bet good money that you would do it.
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            • Originally posted by efin98 View Post
              Get bullied around by the "superior" team's "fans" for decades and see if you don't rub in your recent success in the face of the jerks...I'll bet good money that you would do it.
              Yeah, I probably would. Remember, I was making a sociologicial observation, not making a moral judgement. I can definitely see why Red Sox fans dislike the Yankees so much.
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              • Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
                Yeah, I probably would. Remember, I was making a sociologicial observation, not making a moral judgement. I can definitely see why Red Sox fans dislike the Yankees so much.
                True. Think of it as a David vs. Goliath situation(somewhat fits the story, if taken literally not religiously).
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                Originally posted by RuthMayBond
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                • Originally posted by efin98 View Post
                  Get bullied around by the "superior" team's "fans" for decades and see if you don't rub in your recent success in the face of the jerks...I'll bet good money that you would do it.
                  Hey, don't worry about that. Nothing about that situation that a car with a big trunk, a good shovel and a large soil field wouldn't cure.
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                  • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                    Hey, don't worry about that. Nothing about that situation that a car with a big trunk, a good shovel and a large soil field wouldn't cure.

                    Sounds tempting for some of the Rays fans down here. At least Yankee and Sox fans don't wear mohawks...
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                    • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                      Hey, don't worry about that. Nothing about that situation that a car with a big trunk, a good shovel and a large soil field wouldn't cure.
                      You have been hanging around in Jersey too much
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                      Originally posted by nymdan
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                      Originally posted by RuthMayBond
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                      • Originally posted by efin98 View Post
                        You have been hanging around in Jersey too much
                        I'm pretty sure that Tony Soprano would respect that thing about the horse's head. Either case, we Yankee fans have our secret "burial ground" where fans that bug us endlessly are sent. One-way ticket, of course!





                        Speaking of which, whatever happened to li'l Ken?
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                        • Originally posted by SDL View Post
                          Sounds tempting for some of the Rays fans down here. At least Yankee and Sox fans don't wear mohawks...
                          You must've missed the Mr T auditions. He pities the fools.



                          Now where do you put those pesky Beantowners, anyway? I hear there are places under the turnpike and the expressway that nobody's ever seen before, much less ever heard of.

                          Last edited by Mattingly; 10-26-2008, 05:11 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                            I'm pretty sure that Tony Soprano would respect that thing about the horse's head. Either case, we Yankee fans have our secret "burial ground" where fans that bug us endlessly are sent. One-way ticket, of course!
                            I know..under one of the end zones at Giants Stadium....
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                            • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                              Now where do you put those pesky Beantowners, anyway? I hear there are places under the turnpike and the expressway that nobody's ever seen before, much less ever heard of.
                              I'm already in Hell...I'm the only one in my neighborhood who does not drive a pickup truck or even cares one iota about NASCAR (some think dale Sr. is going to rise from the dead)....anyplace you'd put me would be an improvement...
                              sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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                              • Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                                I'm pretty sure that Tony Soprano would respect that thing about the horse's head. Either case, we Yankee fans have our secret "burial ground" where fans that bug us endlessly are sent. One-way ticket, of course!
                                The East River, Hudson River, Passaic River, or the The Hackensack River?

                                Speaking of which, whatever happened to li'l Ken?
                                He's brooding down in his basement over the loss...poor guy is heartbroken
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                                Originally posted by nymdan
                                Too... much... math... head... hurts...
                                Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                                I understand, I lost all my marbles years ago

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