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  • RE: THE Trade

    Why Gonzales?

    I understand unloading the big contracts was point of the trade. I also understand, (and agree with) why they dumped the other two.
    Beckett hasn't done anything for a few years now & Crawford's been a disappointment in the few games he's played in two years or he's been injured.

    But, again I ask, why Gonzo?
    They repeatedly tried for two years to get him from San Diego. He gets big money because he's worth it. He's never given the team a problem and has played at the high level in field and at the plate that we expected. What more could the front office want from the guy? :dismay:
    He's in his prime and a great fit for Fenway Park. They'll never find a better left-handed power hitter who has the ability to take advantage of Fenway's close left field wall.
    Oh, BTW, he won the Gold Glove Award as the A.L. best first-baseman.

    I remember being so optimistic and excited when we finally got him.
    Now I'm just pissed-off . . . +
    Last edited by KenFougere; 08-26-2012, 04:01 AM.
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    • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
      Why Gonzales?

      I understand unloading the big contracts was point of the trade. I also understand, (and agree with) why they dumped the other two.
      Beckett hasn't done anything for a few years now & Crawford's been a disappointment in the few games he's played in two years or he's been injured.

      But, again I ask, why Gonzo?
      They repeatedly tried for two years to get him from San Diego. He gets big money because he's worth it. He's never given the team a problem and has played at the high level in field and at the plate that we expected. What more could the front office want from the guy? :dismay:
      He's in his prime and a great fit for Fenway Park. They'll never find a better left-handed power hitter who has the ability to take advantage of Fenway's close left field wall.
      Oh, BTW, he won the Gold Glove Award as the A.L. best first-baseman.

      I remember being so optimistic and excited when we finally got him.
      Now I'm just pissed-off . . . +
      Good point. Either he really wanted to leave, or LA demanded he be a part of the trade or no deal. All Star first basemen don't grow on trees.

      From LA's standpoint he has to be the crown jewel and the most reliable player they obtained. They don't know if Beckett's velocity and injuries will come into play. Somebody must really like Carl Crawford out West. I would not pay $40 million per year for Crawford and Beckett so maybe that's your answer?
      "He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
      "You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."

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      • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
        Why Gonzales?

        I understand unloading the big contracts was point of the trade. I also understand, (and agree with) why they dumped the other two.
        Beckett hasn't done anything for a few years now & Crawford's been a disappointment in the few games he's played in two years or he's been injured.

        But, again I ask, why Gonzo?
        They repeatedly tried for two years to get him from San Diego. He gets big money because he's worth it. He's never given the team a problem and has played at the high level in field and at the plate that we expected. What more could the front office want from the guy? :dismay:
        He's in his prime and a great fit for Fenway Park. They'll never find a better left-handed power hitter who has the ability to take advantage of Fenway's close left field wall.
        Oh, BTW, he won the Gold Glove Award as the A.L. best first-baseman.

        I remember being so optimistic and excited when we finally got him.
        Now I'm just pissed-off . . . +

        Our Fearless Leader probably didn't like him and told Lucchino that. You can bet he never said a word to Useless Ben....
        sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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        • I'm a firm believer that not all players have the character to perform on certain stages. There's a psychologic factor. Gonzo didn't fit with BSN, but @ Chavez Ravine he'll flourish. This is a win-win deal for both teams.
          "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
          George Brett

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          • Originally posted by yankillaz View Post
            I'm a firm believer that not all players have the character to perform on certain stages. There's a psychologic factor. Gonzo didn't fit with BSN, but @ Chavez Ravine he'll flourish. This is a win-win deal for both teams.
            He fit with Red Sox Nation. He just didn't fit with Valentine The Fearless leader
            sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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            • Your looking at the wrong end of the trade for the reason: the Dodgers were primarily interested in Gonzo and were willing to take a risk on the other two only if he was included.

              Go Pats, eh? <Hiya Ken! >
              Last edited by YankeeMan; 08-27-2012, 07:19 PM. Reason: Add proper taunting
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              • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                Last edited (Post#9581) by YankeeMan; Yesterday at 09:19 PM. Reason: "Add proper taunting"
                You see, it's the important details that makes him so, 'distinctive' from the rest of us . . . roof: -
                Last edited by KenFougere; 08-28-2012, 06:35 PM.
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                • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
                  You see, it's the important details that makes him so, 'distinctive' from the rest of us . . . roof: -
                  Well you know... <kicks coyly at the infield dirt> ...I try my best. :innocent:
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                  • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                    Your looking at the wrong end of the trade for the reason: the Dodgers were primarily interested in Gonzo and were willing to take a risk on the other two only if he was included.

                    Go Pats, eh? <Hiya Ken! >
                    Ya. I knew that. I was just so pissed. -

                    I mean, we just got the guy last year after over two years trying to get him . . . :dismay:
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                    • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
                      Ya. I knew that. I was just so pissed. -

                      I mean, we just got the guy last year after over two years trying to get him . . . :dismay:
                      I know what you're saying, but it seems now that he didn't like it here, and his performance this season certainly wasn't stellar...how about that front office finds a 1Bman who WANTS to be on the Red Sox and is just ITCHING to lay a whomping on them Yanks?!?!!?
                      We need to bring Fisk in to tutor these young guys on the proper attitude towards those Bronx-based boys..."I was holding down Michaels with one arm while punching that fatso Munson with the other...he was such a wuss he kept hitting me with both hands! You gotta expect those Yanks to cheat..."
                      ;^)

                      (BTW, I respected Munson's grit and his death was tragic...but, even his teammates called him "Captain Badbody"...)
                      "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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                      • &quot;Jocularity&quot;

                        Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
                        "I was holding down Michaels with one arm while punching that fatso Munson with the other...he was such a wuss he kept hitting me with both hands! You gotta expect those Yanks to cheat..."
                        ;^)

                        (BTW, I respected Munson's grit and his death was tragic...but, even his teammates called him "Captain Badbody"...)
                        HOW DARE YOU EVEN SPEAK HIS NAME!!! YOU SAUX LOVIN'...
                        <Ken shoots YankeeMan with the tranquilizer dart gun he keeps handy for these types of occurrences.>

                        [FYI: 15 is the ONLY number the YankeeMan has EVER worn on his Yankee jerseys. ]

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                        Last edited by YankeeMan; 08-30-2012, 05:06 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
                          I know what you're saying, but it seems now that he didn't like it here, and his performance this season certainly wasn't stellar...how about that front office finds a 1Bman who WANTS to be on the Red Sox and is just ITCHING to lay a whomping on them Yanks?!?!!?
                          We need to bring Fisk in to tutor these young guys on the proper attitude towards those Bronx-based boys
                          ..."I was holding down Michaels with one arm while punching that fatso Munson with the other...he was such a wuss he kept hitting me with both hands! You gotta expect those Yanks to cheat..."
                          ;^)
                          (BTW, I respected Munson's grit and his death was tragic...but, even his teammates called him "Captain Badbody"...)
                          I hear ya. But I'm afraid they just don't make them like Fisk or Munson anymore. Today they take no pride in your teams' city, history or rivalries. When their contract is up, they move on to the next highest bidder . . . :dismay:
                          It's ALL about the :flow: now-a-days.
                          Ken Fougère

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                          • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                            HOW DARE YOU EVEN SPEAK HIS NAME!!! YOU SAUX LOVIN'...
                            <Ken shoots YankeeMan with the tranquilizer dart gun he keeps handy for these types of occurrences.>


                            [FYI: 15 is the ONLY number the YankeeMan has EVER worn on his Yankee jerseys. ]
                            Dam it. I knew I'd forgotten something at home this morning! - :stupidme:
                            Last edited by KenFougere; 08-30-2012, 05:24 PM. Reason: Emphasize, "Dam it"
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                            • A little personal story: I have a cousin ("Billy") who grew-up (and still lives in) the Boston area. Naturally, he's a saux fan. When we were wee lads, his favorite player was Fisk. Mine has already been delineated above. Every summer, at the family reunion, we fought like cats and dogs.

                              In fact, the ONLY thing we agreed on was that we both had no love for the
                              Cincinnati Reds (see 1975 & 1976 World Series).

                              Just a little of the colorful life of the YankeeMan.
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                              1923 • 1927 • 1928 • 1932 • 1936 • 1937 • 1938 • 1939 • 1941 • 1943

                              1947 • 1949 • 1950 • 1951 • 1952 • 1953 • 1956 • 1958 • 1961 • 1962


                              1977 • 1978 • 1996 • 1998 • 1999 • 2000 • 2009

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                              • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                                A little personal story: I have a cousin ("Billy") who grew-up (and still lives in) the Boston area. Naturally, he's a saux fan. When we were wee lads, his favorite player was Fisk. Mine has already been delineated above. Every summer, at the family reunion, we fought like cats and dogs.

                                In fact, the ONLY thing we agreed on was that we both had no love for the
                                Cincinnati Reds (see 1975 & 1976 World Series).

                                Just a little of the colorful life of the YankeeMan.
                                I was also a Reds hater (stupid ban on facial hair), so in '76 I didn't care who won the Series....
                                sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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