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  • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
    I was bored so I looked up some Bos/NY individual pitching stats:

    A.L. Top ERA

    01. Clay Buchholz - 0.90
    06. Jon Lester - 1.73

    08. Andy Pettitte - 2.01
    14. Hiroki Kuroda - 2.35
    19. CC Sabathia - 2.57

    20. Ryan Dempster - 2.65

    Then I just realized your top ERA starting pitcher is the 79 year old . . .

    Team ERA:
    • 1. Red Sox - 2.71
    • 5. Yankees - 3.75
    I was going to say something witty...
    ugh.png ...then C.C. gave up four runs in the FIRST!
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    • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
      YankeeMan won't be taken down easily . . . . .
      That's for sure... I definitely wouldn't let those Beaneaters take me alive!
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      You know, I probably shouldn't say that. Back in 1979, I went to Fenway to see the Yanks play. The people were quite friendly... A few even bought me a beer...
      It didn't come in a cup... But it's the thought that counts, right?
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      • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post

        You know, I probably shouldn't say that. Back in 1979, I went to Fenway to see the Yanks play. The people were quite friendly... A few even bought me a beer...[/color] It didn't come in a cup... But it's the thought that counts, right?
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        Boy, did I ever miss your, 'special', sense of humor while you were in retirement. -
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        • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
          Boy, did I ever miss your, 'special', sense of humor while you were in retirement. -
          My wife thinks I'm "Special" too... But she also thinks my name is "Ed."

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          • Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
            My wife thinks I'm "Special" too... But she also thinks my name is "Ed."








            ........
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            • W h a t . T h e . F u _ k ?
              Houston Astros (7-18) 9 Runs & 17 Hits


              NY Yankees (15-10) 1 Run



              I know I'd be the, (2nd) person here to say I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but didn't Houston just get their asses kicked as they were swept in their last series?
              (Their opponent's name escapes me right at the moment)
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              • W h a t . The . F _ c k ?

                Boston Red Sox (18-8) 7 Runs & 9 Hits




                Toronto Blue Jays (10-17) 9 Runs & 9 Hits




                I know I'd be the, (2nd) person here to say I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but didn't Toronto just get their asses kicked as they were swept 4 straight in their last series?
                (Their opponent's name escapes me right at the moment)
                Last edited by YankeeMan; 04-30-2013, 09:17 PM. Reason: 'Cause karama's a bytch (-;
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                • You are unbelievable . . .

                  Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                  Reason for editing: 'Cause karama's a bytch (-;
                  . . . . again, I'm 08-51.gif
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                  • Eckersley goes hard after Jack Morris for accusing Buchholz of cheating

                    From: CBSsports.com

                    Now, before we go any further, let's make something clear: The Toronto Blue Jays did not accuse Buchholz of cheating during the game or through the media afterward. This stems from the stadium camera crew and Sportsnet broadcast, not John Gibbons or any of his players. So let's not blame the Blue Jays.

                    Jack Morris, however, is definitely accusing Buchholz of cheating.

                    Via ESPN Boston:

                    "It was all over his forearm, all over the lower part of his T-shirt, it's all in his hair," Morris said. "I can't prove anything. I can't prove anything.

                    "Funny thing, the way the game is played today. In our generation, every player, every coach would have seen it, the umpire would have gone out and made him change, made him stop and that changes everything. Or else they throw him out of the game. So what kind of bugs all of us is nothing is done here."
                    Morris also believes Buchholz was throwing spitballs.

                    Dennis Eckersley feels very strongly that Clay Buchholz is not cheating, and he has not been afraid to make himself heard about that fact. After dismissing Toronto broadcaster Dirk Hayhurst as a “career minor leaguer” before Thursday’s game, Eck showed no restrain in similarly going after Blue Jays television announcer (and former MLB pitcher) Jack Morris. Check out Eckersley’s pointed comments in the video below, directed toward Morris from Thursday’s Red Sox Extra Innings LIVE.


                    Buchholz dominated the Jays for seven shutout innings, allowing only two hits and striking out eight in a 10-1 victory. So maybe Morris was just angry Buchholz didn't pitch to the score? I kid, I kid.

                    Anyway, there was a visible white streak on his arm, but it's a rather simple explanation.

                    “There's a rosin bag behind the mound and it's there for everybody to use every inning after our warm-up,” he said (via sportsnet.ca). “Put rosin on my arm throughout the game. Sweat, water, whatever. … Sometimes I put a little thing of water on my hip just to get moisture on your hands. Cause sometimes the balls that they throw to you feel like cue balls off a pool table. Got to find a way to get grip. But yeah, I mean, definitely no foreign objects or substances on my arm.”

                    Rosin is legal. And it's perfectly normal for powder to form a shiny paste in sweat. Red Sox catcher David Ross backs up Buchholz's defense.

                    "I touch the ball as much as Buch does and I know when a pitcher is messing with the ball. He's not putting anything on it. And that shirt he wears is about 40 years old," Ross said to ESPN Boston.

                    Buchholz is the way-too-early leader in the clubhouse for the AL Cy Young, as he's now 6-0 with a 1.01 ERA, 0.96 WHIP and 47 strikeouts in 44 2/3 innings pitched through six starts. No team has accused Buchholz of anything nefarious or checked any balls during his starts.
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                    Last edited by KenFougere; 05-03-2013, 08:13 PM.
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                    • I was a LHP and, later, a professional baseball scout for three years (1996-1998).

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                      oooh, shiny... Um, sorry, I got distracted...

                      Anyway, I didn't want to respond right away but now, after I've watched some game video, I'm ready:

                      When I pitched in college, I "bent" the rules... Okay, I cheated! My tool was a thumb tack I kept in my glove... I know what a doctored baseball does and I know how to spot cheaters (Google Kenny Rogers 2006 ALDS). I MUST agree with
                      Jerry Remy... Buchholz is just "nasty" but I he's not cheating. All this cheating stuff is simply the "welp of a beaten cur."

                      That's my opinion and you're welcome to it.
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                      And dammit
                      Ken! You know it's against my religion to watch NESN!
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                      • A serious breach of Baseball Fever's Policy!

                        Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                        I was a LHP and, later, a professional baseball scout for three years (1996-1998). . .

                        ...When I pitched in college, I "bent" the rules... Okay, I cheated! My tool was a thumb tack I kept in my glove
                        * ...


                        And dammit Ken! You know it's against my religion to watch NESN!
                        * Now there's a SHOCKER!

                        I don't know how any of the other members feel about this, at best, questionable behavior. I've never been so embarrassed by
                        YankeeMan before. I mean sure there's been at least a hundred times before this hum-dingger. But this is an all time low. Even for him!
                        Certainly this kind of behavior must be against BBF's Policy? From which I quote, "The intent of the Baseball Fever Policy is to ensure that Baseball Fever remains extremely high quality". I'm so upset, I'm shaking. I have no choice but to PM Sean, (Webmaster), and get his thoughts on this most embarrassing matter.

                        What a sad day for us all, a sad day indeed. -


                        I can't remember when I've had this much fun . . .
                        Ken Fougère

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                        • Great story... During one of Billy Martin's tenures as manager, Don Sutton was pitching for the Angels vs. Tommy John for the Yankees...

                          Anyway, they had TV's in the dugouts back then... And the TV coverage caught Sutton cheating. Later, they showed Bill watching the aforementioned TV coverage... Billy did NOTHING. When asked later about it, he said "If Tommy John's pitching for you, you don't throw stones."

                          Certain cheats are acceptable in baseball... if you don't get caught.* And sometimes, even if you do (Google: George Brett pine tar).




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                          [*Spitball legend Gaylord Perry was inducted into the HoF in 1991. :scholar:]


                          Oh, and kids... a bottle cap works better but it's harder to hide. [Hiya Ken! ]
                          Last edited by YankeeMan; 05-05-2013, 04:44 AM. Reason: Pass on my knowledge to the next generation...
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                          • Where's your cut-off point?

                            Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                            Great story... During one of Billy Martin's tenures as manager, Don Sutton was pitching for the Angels vs. Tommy John for the Yankees...

                            Anyway, they had TV's in the dugouts back then... And the TV coverage caught Sutton cheating. Later, they showed Bill watching the aforementioned TV coverage... Billy did NOTHING. When asked later about it, he said "If Tommy John's pitching for you, you don't throw stones."

                            Certain cheats are acceptable in baseball... if you don't get caught.* And sometimes, even if you do (Google: George Brett pine tar).


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                            [*Spitball legend Gaylord Perry was inducted into the HoF in 1991. :scholar:]

                            Oh, and kids... a bottle cap works better but it's harder to hide. [Hiya Ken! ]
                            Your opinon. At what point does "cheating" cross the line of being an acceptable part of the game?
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                            • Originally posted by KenFougere View Post
                              Your opinon. At what point does "cheating" cross the line of being an acceptable part of the game?
                              Well, I think the "traditional" cheats are the only okay ones... :cap:
                              Stealing the signs, corked bat, doctoring the , etc.... But only until you get caught.


                              For example, did you know it's against the rules for the pitcher to attempt to deceive the batter? :scholar:
                              However, in common practice, his job is all about deception.
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                              • A thorn in my side . . .

                                Originally posted by YankeeMan View Post
                                Well, I think the "traditional" cheats are the only okay ones... :cap:
                                Stealing the signs, corked bat, doctoring the , etc.... But only until you get caught.


                                For example, did you know it's against the rules for the pitcher to attempt to deceive the batter? :scholar:
                                However, in common practice, his job is all about deception.
                                What about players who excessively used steroids throughout their careers (and 'got caught') which artificially inflated their statistics to place them among the legitimate all-time MLB leaders?
                                Ken Fougère

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