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  • 13 for 13, he is a closer, he had to take over for Kaz, and has done one heck of a job.

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    • 13 barely compares to 43 or 41.

      Comparing Moises Alou's 18 homers to Barry's 37 makes more sense.
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      • Originally posted by Mattingly


        Aw man, how a few simple Sunday games can bring such delight to one person, it amazes me. Ahhhhhhhhh.

        *Sits snug like a bug in a rug*
        I enjoyed today too Mattingly. Freddy confirmed his comeback

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        • Originally posted by Hammerin Hank
          13 barely compares to 43 or 41.
          If you talk soley about saves, but he's pitched about the same number of innings as Smoltz and Gagne. Had he been a closer from the beginning, he'd probably have somewhere around 30.

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          • Talking about what a player could've done won't get them a Cy Young.

            Had Sosa not missed those three weeks he's probably have nearly 40 homeruns and would be in MVP contention. And pitching in middle relief like Shiggy did for most of the season isn't as difficult as closing games.
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            • Hank, Shiggy hasn't given up a run in over 28 consecutive innings pitched. That includes closing games.

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              • 13 saves still doesn't compare to 43.
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                • Originally posted by Mattingly


                  Aw man, how a few simple Sunday games can bring such delight to one person, it amazes me. Ahhhhhhhhh.

                  *Sits snug like a bug in a rug*
                  i slept till one just to watch the baseball games today
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                  "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
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                  • Originally posted by Hammerin Hank
                    13 saves still doesn't compare to 43.
                    True, I won't argue that point, but Shiggy is in the top 10 among AL pitchers in Saves this season, even without pitching a full season as a closer.

                    You also mentioned that Middle Relief is easier than being a closer. Since becoming the M's closer, he's given up a grand total of zero (0) runs.

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                    • So you're saying it's easier to be a closer than in middle relief?
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                      • whats this the strangers are beating the white sox
                        International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                        "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                        Dizzy Dean.


                        9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                        19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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                        • Haven't they been doing that every inning of play since the series began Friday?
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                          • oh yeah
                            International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                            "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                            Dizzy Dean.


                            9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                            19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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                            • It's nice to see Mark Teixeira get the RBI.
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                              • still its the strangers. i've had to watch them all year long. consisder yourself lucky.
                                International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                                "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                                Dizzy Dean.


                                9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                                19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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