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  • tearforamariner
    Research Baseball
    • Jun 2003
    • 1681

    13 for 13, he is a closer, he had to take over for Kaz, and has done one heck of a job.

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    • Hammerin Hank
      Slave to the Game
      • Aug 2002
      • 3112

      13 barely compares to 43 or 41.

      Comparing Moises Alou's 18 homers to Barry's 37 makes more sense.
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      • tearforamariner
        Research Baseball
        • Jun 2003
        • 1681

        Originally posted by Mattingly


        Aw man, how a few simple Sunday games can bring such delight to one person, it amazes me. Ahhhhhhhhh.

        *Sits snug like a bug in a rug*
        I enjoyed today too Mattingly. Freddy confirmed his comeback

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        • tearforamariner
          Research Baseball
          • Jun 2003
          • 1681

          Originally posted by Hammerin Hank
          13 barely compares to 43 or 41.
          If you talk soley about saves, but he's pitched about the same number of innings as Smoltz and Gagne. Had he been a closer from the beginning, he'd probably have somewhere around 30.

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          • Hammerin Hank
            Slave to the Game
            • Aug 2002
            • 3112

            Talking about what a player could've done won't get them a Cy Young.

            Had Sosa not missed those three weeks he's probably have nearly 40 homeruns and would be in MVP contention. And pitching in middle relief like Shiggy did for most of the season isn't as difficult as closing games.
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            • tearforamariner
              Research Baseball
              • Jun 2003
              • 1681

              Hank, Shiggy hasn't given up a run in over 28 consecutive innings pitched. That includes closing games.

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              • Hammerin Hank
                Slave to the Game
                • Aug 2002
                • 3112

                13 saves still doesn't compare to 43.
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                • drillerman
                  Yeah its the Driller.
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 163

                  Originally posted by Mattingly


                  Aw man, how a few simple Sunday games can bring such delight to one person, it amazes me. Ahhhhhhhhh.

                  *Sits snug like a bug in a rug*
                  i slept till one just to watch the baseball games today
                  International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                  "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                  Dizzy Dean.


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                  • tearforamariner
                    Research Baseball
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1681

                    Originally posted by Hammerin Hank
                    13 saves still doesn't compare to 43.
                    True, I won't argue that point, but Shiggy is in the top 10 among AL pitchers in Saves this season, even without pitching a full season as a closer.

                    You also mentioned that Middle Relief is easier than being a closer. Since becoming the M's closer, he's given up a grand total of zero (0) runs.

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                    • Hammerin Hank
                      Slave to the Game
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 3112

                      So you're saying it's easier to be a closer than in middle relief?
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                      • drillerman
                        Yeah its the Driller.
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 163

                        whats this the strangers are beating the white sox
                        International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                        "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                        Dizzy Dean.


                        9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                        19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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                        • Hammerin Hank
                          Slave to the Game
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 3112

                          Haven't they been doing that every inning of play since the series began Friday?
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                          • drillerman
                            Yeah its the Driller.
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 163

                            oh yeah
                            International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                            "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                            Dizzy Dean.


                            9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                            19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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                            • Hammerin Hank
                              Slave to the Game
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 3112

                              It's nice to see Mark Teixeira get the RBI.
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                              • drillerman
                                Yeah its the Driller.
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 163

                                still its the strangers. i've had to watch them all year long. consisder yourself lucky.
                                International League Fourm and Pacific Coast League Fourm Triple A Baseball

                                "The dumber a pitcher is, the better. When he gets smart and begins to experiment with a lot of different pitches, he's in trouble. All I ever had was a fastball, a curve and a changeup and I did pretty good."
                                Dizzy Dean.


                                9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

                                19261931193419421944 1946196419671982

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