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Tradional Stats vs. Advanced Metrics

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  • #16
    Originally posted by thefeckcampaign View Post
    I use traditional with a dab of the SABR that I truly understand. I love OPS+ and ERA+ better than any traditional stat. They are nice ways to compare different eras. I have stopped looking at RBI and I know Wins show really nothing for a pitcher though I do find Steve Carlton's Win total of 27 in '72 an amazing feat.



    WAR to me is like football's QB Rating. Quick look, okay, but I definitely don't use it to prove a point because you know the formula is not 100% correct and will change over time.
    And the way WAR is calculated depends on who's calculating it. As long as BB Ref. and Fangraphs are at odds, I can't really take WAR seriously.
    Shalom, y'all!
    What's the rumpus?

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    • #17
      My biggest problem with modern metrics is understanding how they're calculated. Every time I try to read up on it, I come away more confused than before. At least the traditional stats, even with their flaws, are easy to calculate.
      27 World Championships
      22 retired numbers
      Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?

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      • #18
        Traditional stats here. Back in the 1980s, I read James' Baseball Abstracts religiously, and calculated my own stuff for Favorite Toy, RCs, and Pythagoreans. Once I spent hours setting up a spread sheet which would calculated park factors, only to realize that the park factors had more year to year variance than I had expected. This was on an old home computer, well before the internet. The calculations were beyond question because James' formulas and all modifications for RC, or any measure, were published. These results were also shared somewhat widely among my SABR friends and acquaintances. We agreed on the numbers for the 1987 MVPs, even if the debates were that much more intense over which stat to base logic upon. It was fun.

        Now, each website has a different formula for WAR, or WAA, or other sabrmetric measure. All of that just reminds this fan of James' belief that fans would forever be in search of a holy grail stat when there simply should not be such a measure. Should we have the holy grail stat, the debate would end there, right there. Would it not? The final tally being in, the subject would have to change. The fun lies in the debate, not the calculation. Even I knew that.

        If a player's WAR differs among sources for any given year by half of a game, and his ranking differs as a result, what is the point? Each source ends up playing the role of umpire Joe West trying to impart his POV on the game, doing it his way. There isn't any fun or point in debating such gobbledygook.
        Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP

        A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Winston Churchill.

        Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test first and the lesson later. -- Dan Quisenberry.

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        • #19
          That whole park factor thing. Why is it so variable from year to year?
          "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
          George Brett

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
            That whole park factor thing. Why is it so variable from year to year?
            An easy summary of the reason was never clear. One guess is that teams' hitting would vary from year to year based upon the health of the lineup, and that same team's pitching would vary for the same reason. This led to different results which were supposedly a 'park factor'. I think the source of the formula was a SABR article in the SABR Research Journal. In hindsight, it seems that I was obsessed with each team's hitting and pitching, and I may have needed to look at road team performance in each park. Including only the road team performances in the formula would have been simpler. The year I did this was for 1992. I've learned some things about how simpler is better sometimes.

            The file is lost now, sitting on someone's Mac which was donated to Goodwill.
            Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP

            A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Winston Churchill.

            Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test first and the lesson later. -- Dan Quisenberry.

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            • #21
              If this poll is true then why is it that all we ever hear about is WAR, ERA+, OPS+, and other sabermetrics?
              27 World Championships
              22 retired numbers
              Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dwj21792 View Post
                My biggest problem with modern metrics is understanding how they're calculated. Every time I try to read up on it, I come away more confused than before. At least the traditional stats, even with their flaws, are easy to calculate.
                Here is how fangraphs calculates WAR. It's very involved and complicated.

                http://www.fangraphs.com/library/war...ition-players/
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

                  Here is how fangraphs calculates WAR. It's very involved and complicated.

                  http://www.fangraphs.com/library/war...ition-players/
                  My point exactly.
                  27 World Championships
                  22 retired numbers
                  Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dwj21792 View Post
                    If this poll is true then why is it that all we ever hear about is WAR, ERA+, OPS+, and other sabermetrics?
                    For the same reason atheists can't stop talking about God, I guess.
                    "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                    George Brett

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                    • #25
                      I look at advanced stats after the fact. During games, traditional stats carry a bit more weight because my mindset usually goes into "okay, Player X, get a hit", and "okay, Player Y, don't make an out here." and "Pitcher Z, get this guy out, I don't care how.".
                      46 wins to match last year's total

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
                        That whole park factor thing. Why is it so variable from year to year?
                        That's a good question. It's more of a curiosity to me than anything else; like when the Braves had their best offensive seasons in years in 2003, Turner Field's Park Factor was 96. How that so-so pitching staff and top offense made Turner Field favor pitchers that year, I don't know.
                        46 wins to match last year's total

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post

                          That's a good question. It's more of a curiosity to me than anything else; like when the Braves had their best offensive seasons in years in 2003, Turner Field's Park Factor was 96. How that so-so pitching staff and top offense made Turner Field favor pitchers that year, I don't know.
                          The year before it was 106. How can the same park change that much in one year?
                          27 World Championships
                          22 retired numbers
                          Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dwj21792 View Post

                            The year before it was 106. How can the same park change that much in one year?
                            That's the main thing. I understand how we can adjust to offensive environment, but those changes from season to season shouldn't be so steep.
                            "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                            George Brett

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