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Watching a game at the stadium vs TV broadcast

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  • Watching a game at the stadium vs TV broadcast

    When I was younger I had the opportunity to see a few live games in the US. Mets, Yankees, some AA. I'm European so I don't have that opportunity here. Of course at that age, with my interest in baseball, going to this big stadium for the first time in my life was something special. The crowd reactions, the crack of the bat. It's different being there than seeing it on TV.

    This MLB post season is the first one I've really followed to a certain degree, and it's all thanks to the condensed games (up on youtube). Basically, you get to see every decisive pitch on every at bat and all the action in the field. Boils it down to an average of 15-20 mins. I like it a lot because contrary to just highlights, you still get a sense of the game.

    Now one of the things I find important to really appreciate baseball, is the opportunity to observe in detail. That's one of the things I like about the challenge rule now. You get to watch a play from up close and in slow motion and sometimes they are very close calls. (I also like the rule in general, because you want the ump to make the right call and an out or safe can make a big difference.)

    But more importantly, it's about pitching. On TV you get a perfect view of every pitch thrown and the batter's reaction to it. You see the curvature, the angle and the velocity of the pitch. Also each pitcher's unique delivery style. They have graphic overlay now, so sometimes they'll put up a little square to show the batter's box and a footprint on where the ball has ended.

    Baseball is pretty unconventional to be a mainstream sport. Many sports (soccer, basketball, hockey, etc) vary on the same basic principle of dominating space and trying to score a goal at the opposing half of the field. Baseball is different. A lot of the time the field remains static, intertwined with short bursts of action. At the heart of all this lies the pitcher-batter duel, the engine that generates everything, where it's about accuracy, instinct, intimidation, and quick decision. Stuff that to the layman may be not so easy to pick up at first glance. It requires a patient, attentive mind and to understand the game you need to understand and appreciate the heart of it.

    Years after my adventure in the US, I attended another ballgame, this time in Japan. We ended up at a low attendance Yakult Swallows game (not the best team in town). Not much was happening, so it was pretty boring, especially because we were in outfield seats and the infield was so far off. I can't see how you can really enjoy a game like that unless you bring some binoculars. We had a good time though, because the Japanese fans were cheering and chanting. A fun crowd.

    The last game I attended was one in the European championship last year in the Netherlands. We were close to the field over at 1st base, so you get a decent view of what the pitcher's throwing (though not as good as on TV where you're spot on). But of course you're there at the game. I was thinking maybe MLB could stream replays to people's smart phones during games. Not constantly, you don't want them to be glued to their screens (that would kill the crowd atmosphere). But at times. You're cell phone makes a little notification sound and you get to see a pitch worth looking at in slow mo or a close play. Maybe it already exists, I don't know. The technology's there. Seems to me a way to get a little bit the best of both.


    edit: ps. 'Between innings' subsection was my best guess of where this post could fit in.
    Last edited by Ninja baseball; 11-07-2017, 03:59 AM.

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    Baseball is unique because it will always be better to see games in person than on TV, IMO. Specifically:

    * You can view whether anyone is warming up in the bullpen at any time, and then which pitcher it might be;
    * You can peek into a dugout (maybe with binoculars, as necessary) to see if a pinch hitter could be coming up;
    * You can review the main scoreboard for hitter stats which go beyond what the broadcast team will provide, and do so quickly without a device;
    * You can scan the defense for defensive shifts;
    * You can watch the runners' leadoffs, the catcher/pitcher struggling to communicate, and the middle infielders cheating a step to prevent stolen bases.... all related matters;
    * It used to be that you could see whether the hitter is choking up with two strikes, and maybe we'll do so again when common sense re-enters the batter's box;
    * You can do all this without the blather of the color/commentary guys trying too hard to entertain.

    Your observations are valid. Those are valid observations on pitches and batter adjustments. This I am not debating, but I would have to watch all that with the sound turned down.

    Instant replay is another matter, however. The issue is a wash for me, because too often the call is justified. When I care more than usual, such as during the postseason, then I might go with the premise of its existence. I actually might favor allowing instant replay only for the postseason, and disallowing it for the regular season for this reason. Overall, I like listening to games on the radio, and following that commentary will suffice over the blather of the TV guys.
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      ^ Yes, that's a very limiting factor about broadcast: you only see one thing at a time and not of your choosing. In person you get to see what's going on and off the field, the bigger picture, and it just makes for a different experience. (I also like that you can see the foul balls fly into the crowd.)

      When I made my previous post I had condensed games in mind. Watching a full game on TV is different though. I think baseball games are a bit long imo for that and what makes it really terrible is all those commercials in between. Radio on the other hand, I think is a really good fit. An afternoon game in the background you can listen to, while you go about your things. It's interesting, I read that baseball took off in the US with the advent of radio (20's, 30's).

      Originally posted by abolishthedh View Post
      * It used to be that you could see whether the hitter is choking up with two strikes, and maybe we'll do so again when common sense re-enters the batter's box;
      * You can do all this without the blather of the color/commentary guys trying too hard to entertain.
      Not sure what you mean by this. Is it bad strike zone calls by umpires you are referring to?

      Thx for sharing your insights.

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        The comment refers to a time at least two decades ago now, when hitters would be inclined to swing for contact. Hitters would especially be inclined to do this with two strikes. Striking out was an express lane to the bench and even the minors when the habit continued over time.

        My point in stating that is that we could see hitters do this easily. Tickets were cheap enough that we would sit in the Field Box seats and be able to see the hands shifting with two strikes, as opposed to earlier in the count. When your seat is less than 10 rows up from the field, that view is easy enough. This embellishment might be necessary, in hindsight.
        Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP

        A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Winston Churchill.

        Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test first and the lesson later. -- Dan Quisenberry.

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