Announcement

Collapse

Updated Baseball Fever Policy

Baseball Fever Policy

I. Purpose of this announcement:

This announcement describes the policies pertaining to the operation of Baseball Fever.

Baseball Fever is a moderated baseball message board which encourages and facilitates research and information exchange among fans of our national pastime. The intent of the Baseball Fever Policy is to ensure that Baseball Fever remains an extremely high quality, extremely low "noise" environment.

Baseball Fever is administrated by three principal administrators:
webmaster - Baseball Fever Owner
The Commissioner - Baseball Fever Administrator
Macker - Baseball Fever Administrator

And a group of forum specific super moderators. The role of the moderator is to keep Baseball Fever smoothly and to screen posts for compliance with our policy. The moderators are ALL volunteer positions, so please be patient and understanding of any delays you might experience in correspondence.

II. Comments about our policy:

Any suggestions on this policy may be made directly to the webmaster.

III. Acknowledgments:

This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

IV. Requirements for participation on Baseball Fever:

Participation on Baseball Fever is available to all baseball fans with a valid email address, as verified by the forum's automated system, which then in turn creates a single validated account. Multiple accounts by a single user are prohibited.

By registering, you agree to adhere to the policies outlined in this document and to conduct yourself accordingly. Abuse of the forum, by repeated failure to abide by these policies, will result in your access being blocked to the forum entirely.

V. Baseball Fever Netiquette:

Participants at Baseball Fever are required to adhere to these principles, which are outlined in this section.
a. All posts to Baseball Fever should be written in clear, concise English, with proper grammar and accurate spelling. The use of abbreviations should be kept to a minimum; when abbreviation is necessary, they should be either well-known (such as etc.), or explained on their first use in your post.

b. Conciseness is a key attribute of a good post.

c. Quote only the portion of a post to which you are responding.

d. Standard capitalization and punctuation make a large difference in the readability of a post. TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS is considered to be "shouting"; it is a good practice to limit use of all capitals to words which you wish to emphasize.

e. It is our policy NOT to transmit any defamatory or illegal materials.

f. Personal attacks of any type against Baseball Fever readers will not be tolerated. In these instances the post will be copied by a moderator and/or administrator, deleted from the site, then sent to the member who made the personal attack via a Private Message (PM) along with a single warning. Members who choose to not listen and continue personal attacks will be banned from the site.

g. It is important to remember that many contextual clues available in face-to-face discussion, such as tone of voice and facial expression, are lost in the electronic forum. As a poster, try to be alert for phrasing that might be misinterpreted by your audience to be offensive; as a reader, remember to give the benefit of the doubt and not to take umbrage too easily. There are many instances in which a particular choice of words or phrasing can come across as being a personal attack where none was intended.

h. The netiquette described above (a-g) often uses the term "posts", but applies equally to Private Messages.

VI. Baseball Fever User Signature Policy

A signature is a piece of text that some members may care to have inserted at the end of ALL of their posts, a little like the closing of a letter. You can set and / or change your signature by editing your profile in the UserCP. Since it is visible on ALL your posts, the following policy must be adhered to:

Signature Composition
Font size limit: No larger than size 2 (This policy is a size 2)
Style: Bold and italics are permissible
Character limit: No more than 500 total characters
Lines: No more than 4 lines
Colors: Most colors are permissible, but those which are hard to discern against the gray background (yellow, white, pale gray) should be avoided
Images/Graphics: Allowed, but nothing larger than 20k and Content rules must be followed

Signature Content
No advertising is permitted
Nothing political or religious
Nothing obscene, vulgar, defamatory or derogatory
Links to personal blogs/websites are permissible - with the webmaster's written consent
A Link to your Baseball Fever Blog does not require written consent and is recommended
Quotes must be attributed. Non-baseball quotes are permissible as long as they are not religious or political

Please adhere to these rules when you create your signature. Failure to do so will result in a request to comply by a moderator. If you do not comply within a reasonable amount of time, the signature will be removed and / or edited by an Administrator. Baseball Fever reserves the right to edit and / or remove any or all of your signature line at any time without contacting the account holder.

VII. Appropriate and inappropriate topics for Baseball Fever:

Most concisely, the test for whether a post is appropriate for Baseball Fever is: "Does this message discuss our national pastime in an interesting manner?" This post can be direct or indirect: posing a question, asking for assistance, providing raw data or citations, or discussing and constructively critiquing existing posts. In general, a broad interpretation of "baseball related" is used.

Baseball Fever is not a promotional environment. Advertising of products, web sites, etc., whether for profit or not-for-profit, is not permitted. At the webmaster's discretion, brief one-time announcements for products or services of legitimate baseball interest and usefulness may be allowed. If advertising is posted to the site it will be copied by a moderator and/or administrator, deleted from the site, then sent to the member who made the post via a Private Message (PM) along with a single warning. Members who choose to not listen and continue advertising will be banned from the site. If the advertising is spam-related, pornography-based, or a "visit-my-site" type post / private message, no warning at all will be provided, and the member will be banned immediately without a warning.

It is considered appropriate to post a URL to a page which specifically and directly answers a question posted on the list (for example, it would be permissible to post a link to a page containing home-road splits, even on a site which has advertising or other commercial content; however, it would not be appropriate to post the URL of the main page of the site). The site reserves the right to limit the frequency of such announcements by any individual or group.

In keeping with our test for a proper topic, posting to Baseball Fever should be treated as if you truly do care. This includes posting information that is, to the best of your knowledge, complete and accurate at the time you post. Any errors or ambiguities you catch later should be acknowledged and corrected in the thread, since Baseball Fever is sometimes considered to be a valuable reference for research information.

VIII. Role of the moderator:

When a post is submitted to Baseball Fever, it is forwarded by the server automatically and seen immediately. The moderator may:
a. Leave the thread exactly like it was submitted. This is the case 95% of the time.

b. Immediately delete the thread as inappropriate for Baseball Fever. Examples include advertising, personal attacks, or spam. This is the case 1% of the time.

c. Move the thread. If a member makes a post about the Marlins in the Yankees forum it will be moved to the appropriate forum. This is the case 3% of the time.

d. Edit the message due to an inappropriate item. This is the case 1% of the time. There have been new users who will make a wonderful post, then add to their signature line (where your name / handle appears) a tagline that is a pure advertisement. This tagline will be removed, a note will be left in the message so he/she is aware of the edit, and personal contact will be made to the poster telling them what has been edited and what actions need to be taken to prevent further edits.

The moderators perform no checks on posts to verify factual or logical accuracy. While he/she may point out gross errors in factual data in replies to the thread, the moderator does not act as an "accuracy" editor. Also moderation is not a vehicle for censorship of individuals and/or opinions, and the moderator's decisions should not be taken personally.

IX. Legal aspects of participation in Baseball Fever:

By submitting a post to Baseball Fever, you grant Baseball Fever permission to distribute your message to the forum. Other rights pertaining to the post remain with the ORIGINAL author, and you may not redistribute or retransmit any posts by any others, in whole or in part, without the express consent of the original author.

The messages appearing on Baseball Fever contain the opinions and views of their respective authors and are not necessarily those of Baseball Fever, or of the Baseball Almanac family of sites.

Sincerely,

Sean Holtz, Webmaster of Baseball Almanac & Baseball Fever
www.baseball-almanac.com | www.baseball-fever.com
"Baseball Almanac: Sharing Baseball. Sharing History."
See more
See less

why do people still hate Derek Jeter so much??

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post
    No one is saying it wasn't the kid's choice. I'm saying it was a STUPID choice. He'll likely never again have a chance to make a score like that. A score that would have set him up with at least a house bought and paid for. Did you ever see "A Bronx Tale?" Do you think that Mickey Mantle (Derek Jeter) cares about you?
    Is it really surprising some people aren't motivated by money or what they will get in return? What if he decided to keep it and never sell it and pass it on to his family?

    And no I haven't seen a Bronx Tale and no I don't think Jeter cares about me.

    I was rooting against the Yankees, why would I hate Jeter for helping them lose?
    Then why are you holding it against him?

    Comment


    • 2 for 2 so far with a stolen base and a 15 game hitting streak. Wow.
      Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

      Comment


      • Originally posted by White Knight View Post
        2 for 2 so far with a stolen base and a 15 game hitting streak. Wow.
        And for all you potheads out there, Jeter is batting .420!
        My top 10 players:

        1. Babe Ruth
        2. Barry Bonds
        3. Ty Cobb
        4. Ted Williams
        5. Willie Mays
        6. Alex Rodriguez
        7. Hank Aaron
        8. Honus Wagner
        9. Lou Gehrig
        10. Mickey Mantle

        Comment


        • Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
          And for all you potheads out there, Jeter is batting .420!
          Maybe, if he works on his D enough... He can creep into the Top 5 SS in MLB today.
          "Herman Franks to Sal Yvars to Bobby Thomson. Ralph Branca to Bobby Thomson to Helen Rita... cue Russ Hodges."

          Comment


          • Originally posted by StanTheMan View Post
            Maybe, if he works on his D enough... He can creep into the Top 5 SS in MLB today.
            So far it's been solid. Either that or Nunez is making him look elite.
            Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

            Comment


            • I saw recently that baseball reference changed how they do war. I really dont know alot about war but these are the top shortstops. I might be missing some. I went by who usually is in the top 10 here.

              Honus Wagner 126.0
              Alex Rodriguez 110.3
              Cal Ripken Jr. 90.2
              Goerge Davis 79.9
              Robin Yount 72.0
              Bill Dahlen 71.4
              Ozzie Smith 70.2 This guy had 39 for defensive war.
              Luke Appling 69.5
              Derek Jeter 67.4
              Alan Trammell 67.1
              Arky Vaughn 65.7
              Bobby Wallace 65.3
              Barry Larkin 64.2
              Ernie Banks 62.7
              PeeWee Reese 62.6
              Joe Cronin 61.7

              I dont agree with the rankings but Jeter is pretty high up there with potential to get in the 75-80 range for war.
              Last edited by chicagowhitesox1173; 05-08-2012, 01:05 AM.
              "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

              "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

              Comment


              • Who cares if some fans hate Jeter?

                He's popular. He's a Yankee. He's gonna have people that don't at all like him.

                I personally like him. He's a good hitter for a shortstop. He's not a very loud player, though he is passionate as far as I can tell. Yeah, he uses a lot of cliches. I guess he'll let the A-Rods and Swishers do the talking.

                I don't really care that he's "hated" because I don't hate him and he's playing for my squad. I don't like to have an "Us Against the World" mentality as a Yankee fan, but it's given that 99.9% of non-Yankee fans don't like the Yankees. I don't care, they don't hate me.

                Comment


                • Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post
                  People hate Jeter because they're jealous of him. Nothing more, nothing less.
                  That might be the best answer to the original question. Add in the fact that he is a career Yankee, and there you have it.
                  Your Second Base Coach
                  Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                    I saw recently that baseball reference changed how they do war. I really dont know alot about war but these are the top shortstops. I might be missing some. I went by who usually is in the top 10 here.

                    Honus Wagner 126.0
                    Alex Rodriguez 110.3
                    Cal Ripken Jr. 90.2
                    Goerge Davis 79.9
                    Robin Yount 72.0
                    Bill Dahlen 71.4
                    Ozzie Smith 70.2 This guy had 39 for defensive war.
                    Luke Appling 69.5
                    Derek Jeter 67.4
                    Alan Trammell 67.1
                    Arky Vaughn 65.7
                    Bobby Wallace 65.3
                    Barry Larkin 64.2
                    Ernie Banks 62.7
                    PeeWee Reese 62.6
                    Joe Cronin 61.7

                    I dont agree with the rankings but Jeter is pretty high up there with potential to get in the 75-80 range for war.
                    What in the name of Minnie Minoso does any part of Alan Trammell's record suggest he was an all-time top ten shortstop?

                    Maybe he wasn't as we can see the difference between Cronin and Yount is pretty much the same as the gap between Davis and Ripken. For those of you who don't get what I am saying, WAR suggests the value of the last 12 guys on the list above is about the same. That's a lot to pick from when you go looking for the number FIVE shortstop of all time (according to WAR).
                    Your Second Base Coach
                    Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

                    Comment


                    • As a self described Yankees hater and Jeter meh-er, I'll try to explain how I feel. One, he's a Yankee, it's that simple. Two related to number one is it feels like he has never had to face any adversity his career. He's had one season where his team has missed the postseason. Three, he's overrated on defense yet he's made out to be a gold glover over there. Granted he is one of the best hitting shortstops ever but a top gloveman he isn't. And four, which related to the OP is we're told we have to like him. I really don't hate the guy and don't buy that if he didn't play in New York, he wouldn't be seen as a star but I really think his Yankeedom and the fact we're told that we have to love the guy pretty much says it all. He belongs in the Hall of Fame easily and I'd vote for him on the first ballot no problem if I were one of the writers but I just don' t think he's as great as Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle in Yankee lore which isn't a slight on him because frankly those four guys are easily in the top 25 of all time. And yeah I have no problem admitting some of this is jealously since my team plays in the same division as his and while they were a dynasty, my team was starting a slip into a decade plus streak of losing seasons so I am somewhat bitter but what the heck.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                        I saw recently that baseball reference changed how they do war.
                        So that's what happened. I thought I was going crazy. I looked up Bill Mazeroski while researching a post, and saw that his WAR was 32 point something. I swore it was like 26.9 the last time I looked at it. I thought maybe he came out of retirement and was improving his stats.

                        Say what you will about the traditional stats, at least they don't change 40 years after a player retired. And they wonder why I'm not on board with WAR.
                        Shalom, y'all!
                        What's the rumpus?

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by O'sFan1997 View Post
                          As a self described Yankees hater and Jeter meh-er, I'll try to explain how I feel. One, he's a Yankee, it's that simple. Two related to number one is it feels like he has never had to face any adversity his career. He's had one season where his team has missed the postseason. Three, he's overrated on defense yet he's made out to be a gold glover over there. Granted he is one of the best hitting shortstops ever but a top gloveman he isn't. And four, which related to the OP is we're told we have to like him. I really don't hate the guy and don't buy that if he didn't play in New York, he wouldn't be seen as a star but I really think his Yankeedom and the fact we're told that we have to love the guy pretty much says it all. He belongs in the Hall of Fame easily and I'd vote for him on the first ballot no problem if I were one of the writers but I just don' t think he's as great as Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle in Yankee lore which isn't a slight on him because frankly those four guys are easily in the top 25 of all time. And yeah I have no problem admitting some of this is jealously since my team plays in the same division as his and while they were a dynasty, my team was starting a slip into a decade plus streak of losing seasons so I am somewhat bitter but what the heck.
                          No argument here. As Jeter's biggest defender on Baseball Fever, even I would never put him ahead of Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle. I don't know anyone who does. I think you're being more than fair, you are certainly not a hater.
                          Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                            So that's what happened. I thought I was going crazy. I looked up Bill Mazeroski while researching a post, and saw that his WAR was 32 point something. I swore it was like 26.9 the last time I looked at it. I thought maybe he came out of retirement and was improving his stats.

                            Say what you will about the traditional stats, at least they don't change 40 years after a player retired. And they wonder why I'm not on board with WAR.
                            I agree with you on point, but it wasn't all that long ago when Cap Anson was no longer a 3,000 hit club member and Tris Speaker lost a bunch of hits. And the 4,192 moment for Pete Rose was no longer "the moment" that he surpassed Cobb, but a few hits earlier.
                            NY Sports Day Independent Gotham Sports Coverage
                            Mets360 Mets Past, Present and Future
                            Talking Mets Baseball. A baseball blog with a Mets bias

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by SteveJRogers View Post
                              I agree with you on point, but it wasn't all that long ago when Cap Anson was no longer a 3,000 hit club member and Tris Speaker lost a bunch of hits. And the 4,192 moment for Pete Rose was no longer "the moment" that he surpassed Cobb, but a few hits earlier.
                              Plus Hack Wilson's 190 RBI became 191, and I'm sure there are more examples..
                              My top 10 players:

                              1. Babe Ruth
                              2. Barry Bonds
                              3. Ty Cobb
                              4. Ted Williams
                              5. Willie Mays
                              6. Alex Rodriguez
                              7. Hank Aaron
                              8. Honus Wagner
                              9. Lou Gehrig
                              10. Mickey Mantle

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by SteveJRogers View Post
                                I agree with you on point, but it wasn't all that long ago when Cap Anson was no longer a 3,000 hit club member and Tris Speaker lost a bunch of hits. And the 4,192 moment for Pete Rose was no longer "the moment" that he surpassed Cobb, but a few hits earlier.
                                Sure, they correct individual cases as research warrants, but this is across the board. This is everybody.
                                Shalom, y'all!
                                What's the rumpus?

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X