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  • #61
    Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    Before the allegations started to come out, BBF was hardly the only place with those sentiments.
    The fact that he was despised and considered a choker was a given. But he was a heck of a player.
    "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
      The fact that he was despised and considered a choker was a given. But he was a heck of a player.
      I never understood the hatred for him. Of course, Bonds's attitude didn't endear him to a lot of folks outside San Francisco, either.
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      • #63
        In no order:
        -trout
        -cabrera
        -kershaw
        -bumgarner
        -stanton
        -mccutchen
        -goldshmidt
        -felix
        -cano
        -altuve - pound for pound or inch for inch, none better

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        • #64
          1. Trout
          2. Kershaw
          3. Stanton
          4. McCutchen
          5. Puig
          6. Cabrera
          7. Robby Cano
          8. Bumgarner
          9. King Felix
          10. Goldschmidt
          "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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          • #65
            A guy who rolls out 115-120 ERA+ every year a top-10 player much less pitcher? I don't see it. I know he has been fantastic in a few postseasons, but there is no way i'd take him right now for a season over Sale or Wainwright or a bunch of other guys until he shows he can dominate (not just be really good) in the regular season at least once.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Cap78 View Post
              In no order:
              -trout
              -cabrera
              -kershaw
              -bumgarner
              -stanton
              -mccutchen
              -goldshmidt
              -felix
              -cano
              -altuve - pound for pound or inch for inch, none better
              Bumgarner is officially the Jack Morris of this generation. He's not even a top 5 pitcher.

              Yes, he is very good and he's had some huge moments in October. Top 10 PLAYER? Ridiculous.
              My top 10 players:

              1. Babe Ruth
              2. Barry Bonds
              3. Ty Cobb
              4. Ted Williams
              5. Willie Mays
              6. Alex Rodriguez
              7. Hank Aaron
              8. Honus Wagner
              9. Lou Gehrig
              10. Mickey Mantle

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              • #67
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                Bumgarner is officially the Jack Morris of this generation. He's not even a top 5 pitcher.

                Yes, he is very good and he's had some huge moments in October. Top 10 PLAYER? Ridiculous.
                I wanted to take a wildcard pick, and he was it...certainly a lot of guys could have been taken, including waino...but my pick is obviously contingent also on if he can continue where he left off

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post
                  A guy who rolls out 115-120 ERA+ every year a top-10 player much less pitcher? I don't see it. I know he has been fantastic in a few postseasons, but there is no way i'd take him right now for a season over Sale or Wainwright or a bunch of other guys until he shows he can dominate (not just be really good) in the regular season at least once.
                  I'm projecting.
                  "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
                    I'm projecting.
                    That makes more sense. Though past performance is the best predictor of future performance. He is young of course, so he has room.
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