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  • #16
    For Evnagelion and Astro

    ON PIERRE:

    Call me crazy, but I love a guy ... on any part of the diamond ... that can post over 200 hits and 100 runs three times in 5 years, steal at least 40 bases a season ... and has lifetime batting average over .300. Sure, his OBP and his walks could be a bit higher. Yet, the trade off is that he doesn't strike out a lot, which means - for a guy with his speed - putting contact on the ball increases the probability that he will get on base. He may have had an "off" season last year. But, 57 stolen bases, 13 triples (career high), 181 hits and 96 runs isn't bad for what evangelion calls a "horrid" season. Plus, he has played in every game the past three seasons. Brady Clark had a higher batting average last year than Pierre, but only 2 more hits, 8 more rbis, 47 less stolen bases - while being caught more than he stole - 10 more strikeouts, 2 less runs, 6 more walks, 17 less games and a OBP that is .46 points higher. That was Clark's BEST season....which do not compare to Pierre's best seasons. How people rank players so high after one season is beyond me.

    As for power ... he's a leadoff hitter. True, his arm is a liability ... but, his speed makes up for it.

    Oh, I did have him 4th ... but, Beltran has some things to prove still. He's inconsistent at this point.
    Last edited by Brannu; 01-14-2006, 07:55 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ElHalo
      This isn't necessarily true. Travis Hafner had a better OPS+ than Ortiz last year.
      thats because Ortiz played in his favorite Fenway Park aka "hitter's welcome"
      Yankees '09

      Arod, CC, AJ, DJ and Tex

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      • #18
        1. Andrew Jones
        2. Jim Edmonds
        3. Johnny Damon
        4. Carlos Beltran
        5. Torrii Hunter
        6. Juan Pierre
        7. Vernon Wells
        8. Ken Griffey Jr.
        9. Brady Clark
        10.Mark Cameron
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        • #19
          1. Andruw Jones
          2. Jim Edmonds
          3. Johnny Damon
          4. Torrii Hunter
          5. Carlos Beltran
          6. Vernon Wells
          7. Brady Clark
          8. Rocco Baldelli
          9. Ken Griffey, Jr.
          10. Mike Cameron
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          • #20
            1. Andruw Jones
            2. Jim Edmonds
            3. Juan Pierre
            4. Johnny Damon
            5. Vernon Wells
            6. Carlos Beltran
            7. Brady Clark
            8. Torii Hunter
            9. Grady Sizemore
            10. Mike Cameron

            Wow, don't I feel smart. I read CFers, but I wrote RFers. I feel really dumb now.
            Last edited by Twisted Wicker; 01-16-2006, 09:28 AM.
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            "The Babe was a great ballplayer, sure, but Ty Cobb was even greater. Babe could knock your brains out, but Cobb would drive you crazy." - Tris Speaker

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Twisted Wicker
              1. Vlad Guerrero
              2. Ichiro Suzuki
              3. Bobby Abreu
              I believe I said Center Fielders????

              Change it or this ballot won't count.
              Yankees '09

              Arod, CC, AJ, DJ and Tex

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              • #22
                1. andruw jones
                2. jim edmonds
                3. johnny damon
                4. brady clark
                5. vernon wells
                6. torii hunter
                7. juan pierre
                8. carlos beltran
                9. ken griffey, jr.
                10. randy winn
                "you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury

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                • #23
                  10 in center

                  Johnny Damon
                  Andruw Jones
                  Jim Edmonds
                  Carlos Beltran
                  Vernon Wells
                  Juan pierre
                  Mike Cameron
                  Ken Griffey Jr.
                  Aaron Rowand
                  Brady Clark

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                  • #24
                    1. Jim Edmonds
                    2. Andruw Jones
                    3. Grady Sizemore
                    4. Johnny Damon
                    5. Carlos Beltran
                    6. David DeJesus
                    7. Brad Wilkerson
                    8. Brady Clark
                    9. Aaron Rowand
                    10. Vernon Wells

                    Reason Griffey wasn't on my list: His fielding was so bad last year that it virtually negated his offensive contribution, i think a corner spot is the best place for him at this point.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Yankee Legend
                      I have a question for you guys:

                      We are doing another poll for Left Fielders.

                      My question is would you like to do one for DH's? RP's? SP's?

                      What do you think???

                      yes definitely. that would be very interesting. -cg.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Yankee Legend
                        I have a question for you guys:

                        We are doing another poll for Left Fielders.

                        My question is would you like to do one for DH's? RP's? SP's?

                        What do you think???
                        One for relievers, and another one for closers.

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                        • #27
                          1.Jim Edmonds
                          2.Grady Sizemore
                          3.Andruw Jones
                          4.Brady Clark
                          5.Vernon Wells
                          5.Johnny Damon
                          6.Carlos Beltran
                          7.Ken Griffey Jr.
                          8.Aaron Rowand
                          9.Mark Kotsay
                          10.Kenny Lofton

                          Here's a Win Shares link if you're interested:

                          http://www.hardballtimes.com/winshar...ueLimit=League

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                          • #28
                            1-Jim Edmonds
                            2-Andruw Jones
                            3-Torri Hunter
                            4-Johnny Damon
                            5-Carlos BEltran
                            6-Brady Clark
                            7-Grady Sizemore
                            8-Ken Griffey Jr
                            9-Vernon Wells
                            10-Juan Pierre

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 538280
                              1.Jim Edmonds
                              2.Grady Sizemore
                              3.Andruw Jones
                              4.Brady Clark
                              5.Vernon Wells
                              5.Johnny Damon
                              6.Carlos Beltran
                              7.Ken Griffey Jr.
                              8.Aaron Rowand
                              9.Mark Kotsay
                              10.Kenny Lofton
                              Just wondering, what else did you factor in to come up with your list, because I see that your rankings aren't based solely on WS; is that just your personal opinion?
                              A lot of people say this honor validates my career, but I didn't work hard for validation. I didn't play the game right because I saw a reward at the end of the tunnel. I played it right because that's what you're supposed to do, play it right and with respect. If this validates anything, it's that learning how to bunt and hit and run and turning two is more important than knowing where to find the little red light at the dug out camera. - Ryne Sandberg

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                              • #30
                                I'm still amazed how one good season gets players so much love. If Sizemore and Clark have sub-par seasons next year ... they won't be on this least at the end of the season. I hope Sizemore does, as I'm diehard Indian fan ... but, there are many players who have had great breakout seasons that never came back around.

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