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  • The Big C
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    I'm sort of suprised to see Schilling on there. I didn't know he was that disliked by his peers. Not too suprised with most of the rest of the baseball guys on there, though I would have guessed Pierzynski would have been higher.

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  • west coast orange and black
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    not just funny, wags. hillarious.

    "Stan Conte, regarded as one of the top experts in physical therapy and conditioning in professional sports, returns for his 14th season with the Giants and his sixth as head athletic trainer.

    Prior to his promotion in 2000, he served as the team's assistant athletic trainer and coordinator of strength and rehabilitation for the previous eight years. Conte, one of the few athletic trainers to hold an additional credential in physical therapy as well as athletic training, helped redesign the Giants' strength and conditioning program in 1997.

    A 1978 graduate of the School of Physical Therapy at California State University, Northridge, he lectures locally and nationally on the treatment and rehabilitation of sports injuries, and authored "Major League Disability Days: An Eleven Year Study," which was published in the prestigious medical journal American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    Conte and his wife, Nancy, reside in San Carlos and have two children, Nick, a minor league catcher in the Giants organization, and Alison, a student at Santa Clara University."
    -giants web site

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  • Dasperp
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    Thought I'd mention: there's an interview with Curt Schilling over on ESPN's Page 2
    Simmons sets a new bar for fanboyism in that interview

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  • BristolBoy
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    Thought I'd mention: there's an interview with Curt Schilling over on ESPN's Page 2.

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  • rockin500
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    i wish there were less like schilling. one of that blowhard is enough for a lifetime.

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  • DownUnderDodger
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    Originally posted by Mattingly
    I'm sure someone will include Derek Jeter.
    I have doubts that Jeter would be unpopular with his peers. I believe his unpopularity with the fans - and they are all non-Yankee fans - is because he is so popular and such a good player to boot! Opposing fans always tend to hate a player who constantly causes their team grief on the field.

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  • DoubleX
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    Originally posted by Mattingly
    Towards the end of the article, from what I remember, there was also Randy Johnson and Alex Rodriguez as the two who barely didn't make the cut. Randy seems only concerned with winning, rather than being some media darling, and when he'd hit that reporter's camera, it didn't seem remotely like Kenny Walker's run-in with a cameraman.
    This is just pure speculation on my part, but from the bits and pieces I have heard about Johnson over the years, he does sound standoffish and moody and doesn't really gel with his teammates. Plus, I think a lot of players in the 90s were just plain afraid of him (Larry Walker, John Kruk).

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  • Honus Wagner Rules
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    From the article:
    9. A. J. Pierzynski

    Google the phrase clubhouse cancer and the first two results will be stories about Chicago White Sox catcher A. J. Pierzynski. Teammates and members of the media use those words and others—unprofessional, immature, arrogant, aloof—to describe him. His baseball misdemeanors are legion: chirping at the opposition, bitterly contesting balls and strikes (very stupid for a catcher, who must win goodwill for his pitcher), and venting his frustrations on opposing first basemen. “He doesn’t have a lot of baseball etiquette,” says one ex-teammate. “He’ll deliberately step on your foot at first base, then say, ‘Man, I didn’t mean to do that!’ ”

    The most telling of the many, many (seriously, you wouldn’t believe how willing people were to talk about this guy) Pierzynski anecdotes we heard took place during spring training in 2004. Pierzynski, crouched behind the plate, took a pitch to the groin. Rushing to his aid, trainer Stan Conte asked him how he felt. “Like this!” Pierzynski grunted, then savagely kneed Conte in the balls.
    Man, that's being a big time jerk but in a strange way it's kind of funny.

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  • Guerrero Mad Man 2715
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    Personally I'm suprised Gary Sheffield wasn't on there.

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    Originally posted by leecemark
    --Whatever his motivations I like that Schilling makes himself so available to the media and, more importantly, the fans. I wish there were more like him. I can't believe anybody would doubt his injury in the 2004 WS either. It was enough of a problem it lingered on to ruin 2005 for him.
    I don't think it's the injury that is doubted. It is the bloody sock thing. Some people (myself included) think that was staged by Schilling for some more of his seemingly endless desire for media attention.

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  • leecemark
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    --Whatever his motivations I like that Schilling makes himself so available to the media and, more importantly, the fans. I wish there were more like him. I can't believe anybody would doubt his injury in the 2004 WS either. It was enough of a problem it lingered on to ruin 2005 for him.

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  • Mattingly
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    Originally posted by DoubleX
    The thing is though, that if some of these guys are as bad and detestable as people make them out to be, then they have that kind of backstabbing coming to them. The problem isn't the cowardice in people anonymously giving the goods, the problem is in the person himself. If the person wasn't so detestable, he wouldn't have anonymous people saying stuff about him.
    Towards the end of the article, from what I remember, there was also Randy Johnson and Alex Rodriguez as the two who barely didn't make the cut. Randy seems only concerned with winning, rather than being some media darling, and when he'd hit that reporter's camera, it didn't seem remotely like Kenny Walker's run-in with a cameraman.

    For Alex Rodriguez, I think that much of his "hatred" by fans comes from RSN. He's a bit pretentious, I'll admit, but he's not a nasty person from what I've seen. Other than gambling, I haven't seen him being a belligerent guy who belittles anyone, so he at least seems like a reasonably nice guy. I can't fault him too much for that.

    Someone elsewhere supposed that it could've been Dan Shaughnessy who wrote the piece on Schilling, as he'd been critical of other Boston athletes. I'll decline comment, but just passing on the info.

    Schilling's problems are that he's constantly making sure that everyone hears his opinion. He's called into live radio programs (Boston's WEII, I think), and over on SoSH (Sons of Sam Horn), he's started "Game Threads", whereby fans discuss a Red Sox game as it's beginning. He simply loves the attention quite a bit too much for my use.

    Then there's the ever-present debate about whether the bloody sock thing was really faked. Some may think he'd tried doing a "limping Willis Reed" from the 1973 NBA Finals, where Reed faced a much more powerful and 3" taller Wilt "The Stilt" Chamberlain, from the LA Lakers.

    On another note:

    Thank goodness that Terrell Owens was #1. Not only does he far outdistance Barry Bonds on the "despised" list, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus has done the impossible: he makes $cott Bora$ look absolutely adorable and trustworthy by comparison. Tough feat.
    Last edited by Mattingly; 01-25-2006, 09:37 PM.

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  • DoubleX
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    Originally posted by Mattingly
    There was some discussion on another board that the people quoted were done so anonymously, and that this represented cowardice. I'm not too sure that anyone would be expected to say the things they did about the various athletes and use their names.

    Then again, I guess that's one reason why I'd never be the type to supply these quotes, even if I were aware of the players' not-so-likeable personalities.
    The thing is though, that if some of these guys are as bad and detestable as people make them out to be, then they have that kind of backstabbing coming to them. The problem isn't the cowardice in people anonymously giving the goods, the problem is in the person himself. If the person wasn't so detestable, he wouldn't have anonymous people saying stuff about him.

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  • Mattingly
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    There was some discussion on another board that the people quoted were done so anonymously, and that this represented cowardice. I'm not too sure that anyone would be expected to say the things they did about the various athletes and use their names.

    Then again, I guess that's one reason why I'd never be the type to supply these quotes, even if I were aware of the players' not-so-likeable personalities.

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    I can't say that I find surprising that players think that Schilling's bloody sock was faked. I had thought the same thing myself. Maybe the Chicken-Hawk stayed up and watched The Natural.

    There were a couple of names on that that I wasn't familiar with, but I wasn't surprised by any of the baseball names.

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