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  • #31
    This isn't going to help Jeter's reputation: he fires a scout while the latter is undergoing cancer surgery.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/derek-jeter...162134586.html

    The Miami Marlins let go of a longtime scout in need of a kidney transplant as he lay in the hospital days after undergoing colon cancer surgery, the latest in a series of questionable decisions made by the organization under the stewardship of newly installed CEO Derek Jeter.

    Marty Scott, who joined the Marlins as a vice president in 2011 and in recent years had worked as a scout, said he was told his contract would not be renewed Oct. 16 while at the Cleveland Clinic in Weston, Florida, where doctors three days earlier had removed a cancerous tumor and polyps from his colon. Doctors initially found the cancer in late August as Scott underwent a battery of tests in preparation for a kidney transplant needed because of diabetes.

    Over a four-decade career in the game, the 64-year-old Scott had worked as a scout, farm director and manager, among other jobs. He hoped to return to the Marlins under the management of Jeter, the former New York Yankees star who in his first two months as CEO offered reduced roles to four popular front-office figures, fired multiple top baseball-operations officials, dangled reigning National League MVP Giancarlo Stanton on the trade market, vowed to slash the team’s payroll and solicited money from outside investors to stabilize the Marlins’ finances.

    “Derek Jeter doesn’t owe me anything,” Scott told Yahoo Sports. “Probably in their hearts they did what they thought was right. I know based on certain aspects of the game, I probably was making too much money. But we all love the game. We’re all in it together. I just think 40 years was worth more than a spank on the butt and see you later.

    “I’m very hurt. Forty years in baseball, I let a lot of people go. I never, ever fired somebody 10 days, 15 days before their contract was up. If I knew I was going to fire somebody, I did it at the beginning of September.”

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    • #32
      Rumor says the marlins did not apply for otani because they did not want to pay the 20m posting fee in case they win. If that is true that would be ridiculous. Sullivan totally went off on them
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      • #33
        They're a clown show and should be contracted.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Los Bravos View Post
          They're a clown show and should be contracted.
          I think people would say the same thing about the Braves?
          46 wins to match last year's total

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          • #35
            Stupid people might.

            The Braves are the longest continually operating franchise in the game. Up until a few years ago, the current iteration of the team was one of the best run and most respected organizations in pro sports. They've lost their way of late but the Marlins have never had that level of success and don't look to be anywhere close to it, Jeter's accumulation of goodwill notwithstanding..
            "Every HoF vote for a PED user is a clear message from those voters to Fred McGriff: 'You should have taken steroids.' Brutal." C.J. Nitkowski

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            • #36
              Derek Jeter exuded class as a player for 20 years; as an owner so far, not so much.
              They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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              • #37
                Jeter traded Marcell Ozuna for Alcantara, Sierra, and two guys I have never heard of before? Seriously? Have fun with Jetes, Marlin fans... Look forward to robbing you clean again in the near future.
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                • #38
                  As I understand it, Jeter's group bought the Marlins for $1.2 billion. The problem is that they paid only $800 million in cash. The remaining $400 million is owed. That $400 million is a real debt that Loria racked up, but if the franchise was thought to have been worth $1.2 billion, Jeter and co. should have paid all of it. If they had, there would be no debt, and no need for a fire sale of players with large contracts.

                  So while Jeter can argue that Loria saddled the new owners with a large debt that they have to pay off, you can just as well argue that they put themselves in this position by in effect paying less for the franchise than it was actually worth.

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                  • #39
                    I could see the Marlins trading Yelich to continue its rebuild.

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                    • #40
                      Mlb should have forced loria or new owner to pay up for the debts so that marlins do not need to run a minimum payroll for another decade, especially since that will likely only make the revenue worse (so they likely need to stay under 100m for a decade).



                      And if this was not possible they should have contracted them and start a new franchise somewhere else.

                      the marlins do not have a cost efficiency problem but a lack of income problem that will persist even past the debts.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JessePopHaines16 View Post
                        I could see the Marlins trading Yelich to continue its rebuild.
                        They could, but another thing is Jeter might get shaken up by the obvious fan revolt and decide to move guys like Prado, Tazawa and Ziegler instead.
                        46 wins to match last year's total

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                        • #42
                          While a fire sale is not problematic per se, I have zero confidence that a Jeter-led front office is going to conduct a rebuild successfully.
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                          • #43
                            An angry fan has started a petition to have Jeter and co-owner Bruce Sherman removed. Not sure how that's possible, short of a sexual harassment claim (note the Carolina Panthers). The funniest part of this article is that it's reported that the petition already has 300,000 signatures, but if you go to the petition website, linked in the article, there are only 78 signatures.

                            https://sports.yahoo.com/marlins-fan...004032978.html

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                            • #44
                              I think you need to give them some time. Stantons contract just needed to be moved and the ozuna return wasn't great but not terrible either.


                              now they need to get an absolute haul for yelich and realmuto. They need to tear down but jeter absolutely needs to turn this into a top5 system.


                              worst would be if they pair yelich with chen and other dead money for mediocre prospects to shed more salary. That would be a terrible sign.

                              they need to turn their two assets at least into 4 top100 prospects and a couple 45s if they want to compete again in thethe next 5 years
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
                                While a fire sale is not problematic per se, I have zero confidence that a Jeter-led front office is going to conduct a rebuild successfully.
                                Right. Rebuilds are fine. But if how Jeter botched-up the Stanton negotiations (gave up of the leverage they had and cost far worse payers back than if they played their hand) is how everything will be handled - I have a hard time trusting a Jeter rebuild.
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