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Phillies sign Jake Arrieta

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  • Phillies sign Jake Arrieta

    Three years and $75 million pending a physical:
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/...e-to-deal.html
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    Well, that's got to be humbling for him after holding out for 7 years and $180 - 200 million or so. Will make the NL East more interesting though.

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    • #3
      Congrats on the Phillies getting second place.
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      • #4
        Interesting. The Phils were supposed to be major players in the next years Free Agency Sweepstakes. I wonder how that'll work out after signing Santana and Arrieta to pretty high $/year contracts.
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        • #5
          While i think $25 million a year is a bit much, by about $5million a year, $75 million total is not bad, the length of the contract, 3 years, is also very reasonable.

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          • #6
            At FG today, it was mentioned that the Cubs reportedly offered Arrieta $110/4 to re-sign, and then an offer similar to Darvish's $126/6.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stolensingle View Post
              At FG today, it was mentioned that the Cubs reportedly offered Arrieta $110/4 to re-sign, and then an offer similar to Darvish's $126/6.
              And Arrieta and Boras declined those offers? If true, that was a foolish business decision, unless his lifelong dream was to pitch for the Phillies.

              Arrieta completely overvalued himself during this process. Obviously, he and Boras were expecting teams to line up for a 32 year old in the decline of his career. In reality, Arrieta has only had one great year (2015) sandwiched by two good good ones and most teams realized this. Him and Darvish are the most overrated pitchers in baseball in my book.
              Last edited by Steve Jeltz; 03-12-2018, 09:16 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steve Jeltz View Post

                And Arrieta and Boras declined those offers? If true, that was a foolish business decision, unless his lifelong dream was to pitch for the Phillies.

                Arrieta completely overvalued himself during this process. Obviously, he and Boras were expecting teams to line up for a 32 year old in the decline of his career. In reality, Arrieta has only had one great year (2015) sandwiched by two good good ones and most teams realized this. Him and Darvish are the most overrated pitchers in baseball in my book.
                I don't know much about Arietta outside of pitching, but this seems straight out of Boras' playbook.While I am not a fan of billionaires getting savign money on salary on =millionaires, I am a fan of trolls like Boras having the world get wise to them and calling their bluff.

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                • #9
                  I like the deal from the Phillies perspective - Arrieta has been unfortunately too effective for the Cubs to my liking (as I'm a Sox fan and anti-Cub fan). The deal is perhaps a bit high on a yearly basis, but if Jake isn't effective, at least the contract is only three years.

                  I think many post-30 year old baseball players are going to get paid in the future - you'll get high salaries, but only for limited years. If they continue to perform, teams will continue to give them those big cash deals late into their 30's, but the contracts will only be for a few years.
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                  • #10
                    Not a bad deal for the Phillies. If everything breaks right, they could be a surprise wild card contender. And even if things don't go right this year, they have some good young talent and should be contenders in 2019 and 2020. And its a short enough deal that it won't become a millstone around the neck of the club if things don't go well.

                    I do chuckle that the Cubs offered Arietta a longer deal twice, with more guaranteed money and he declined both times. Works for me, because I was hoping the Cubs would get Darvish instead of Arietta.

                    Him and Darvish are the most overrated pitchers in baseball in my book.
                    Curious why you say that about Darvish. WAR had him in the top 15 last season. His K rate is outstanding, and in the year and a half since his injury, he's shown no signs of setback or re-injury. His move from the Rangers to the Cubs will give him a more friendly park and a better defense.

                    I'm not saying the Darvish signing was a perfect one. I would've preferred a shorter deal, and there is some risk health-wise, but I think overall it fits in good with the Cubs' timeline as we know they have at least a 3 year window of serious contenders after that they have Baez, Hendricks, Lester and Quintana all hitting free agency. And the year after that they have Bryant, Rizzo, and Russell as FA.
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