Smoltz,Glavine,Hudson and a healthy Hampton

[lovethegame]

That would be a heck of a last shot staff for Cox and company.
Mets and Phillies look best but the Braves have offense and pitching and may surprise
How healthy is Pedro Martinez?anyone hear anything?

[KCGHOST]

There is no such thing as a "healthy" Hampton. Anything you get from him should be treated as a gift from the gods.

[SamtheBravesFan]

*shakes his head* The only thing I'm counting on Hampton to do is keep the bench warm. Anything else is cake. I'm not relying on him for anything.

[SABR Steve]

The Mets are shaking in their boots.

[Imgran]

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/Carl-Pavano.shtml

[SamtheBravesFan]

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...l-Pavano.shtml

Bravo, bravo!

[NYMets523]

The Mets are shaking in their boots.

You bet they are

[metfan13]

It seems in so many posts, or columns on various sites that the age of Mets starters (Pedro and El Duque) is always important. So how old are Smoltz, Glavine and Hampton?

[NYMets523]

It seems in so many posts, or columns on various sites that the age of Mets starters (Pedro and El Duque) is always important. So how old are Smoltz, Glavine and Hampton?

In some articles, I've seen writers downplay the significance of the Mets acquiring Santana and exaggerate the impact Glavine (who is a 5th starter at this point). One guy even wrote something to the effect of "With the exception of Johan Santana, the Mets haven't done much".

[SamtheBravesFan]

I don't think they have done that much, really.

Okay, here are the Braves' main starters at this point, their ages, and injury history I can remember.

Smoltz - 41, since missing the 2000 and some of the 2001 season, he has had nagging injuries, but he hasn't missed significant time during the season.

Glavine - 42, basically the only incident that caused him to miss any time was when he was in a car wreck and lost his front teeth. I believe that he can be counted on to pitch.

Hudson - 32, I think he has done a good job of staying healthy, his question is effectiveness on game day.

Hampton - 33, basically, he hasn't pitched since May of 2005. He can't be counted on for anything unless he proves he can pitch again.

James - 26, the word is that he has a serious shoulder injury from pitching hurt in 2006, and he did miss a lot of time in 2005 with something dealing with his hamstring, I think.

Would any Mets fans like to help me out with Mets starters like this?

[NYMets523]

I don't think they have done that much, really.

Okay, here are the Braves' main starters at this point, their ages, and injury history I can remember.

Smoltz - 41, since missing the 2000 and some of the 2001 season, he has had nagging injuries, but he hasn't missed significant time during the season.

Glavine - 42, basically the only incident that caused him to miss any time was when he was in a car wreck and lost his front teeth. I believe that he can be counted on to pitch.

Hudson - 32, I think he has done a good job of staying healthy, his question is effectiveness on game day.

Hampton - 33, basically, he hasn't pitched since May of 2005. He can't be counted on for anything unless he proves he can pitch again.

James - 26, the word is that he has a serious shoulder injury from pitching hurt in 2006, and he did miss a lot of time in 2005 with something dealing with his hamstring, I think.

Would any Mets fans like to help me out with Mets starters like this?

Glavine missed a start in 2006 when he had that numb finger scare.

As for the Mets starters:

Johan Santana, 29: Do I need to explain?

Pedro Martinez, 36: He proved he could pitch effectively again. With more time since his surgery passed, I think he is capable of 25 starts.

Oliver Perez, 26: Showed huge improvements in 2007. I expect him to log some more innings, reduce his BB numbers.

John Maine, 26/27: Struggles in the 2nd half were from dead arm. Will likely pitch more effectively and consistently over the season. Also had a nagging hip last year.

Orlando Hernandez, ??: Expect the same as last year but not as good numbers. He'll pitch really well for a stretch of time. Then get injured. Mets need to shut him down mid-season

[SamtheBravesFan]

Santana is Santana, sure. You're right on Martinez and Hernandez as well. Hey, let's say that Hernandez is 50 and get it over with.

Us Braves fans thought that Chuck James was suffering from dead arm during the season, but that wasn't the case. Might want to keep an eye on Maine.

Call me unconvinced with Perez. He did improve last season, but lets see him do it again.

[Los Bravos]

exaggerate the impact Glavine (who is a 5th starter at this point).

You really need to dial it back a bit on him. He's obviously not the guy he was in '98, but he's hardly the stiff you consistently make him out to be, either. He's the #3 guy on this staff, which is what it needs.

Like Sam, I'm not counting on much from Hampton, but I'll take anything he's capable of. I expect to see Jurrjens in the rotation and I won't be surprised if Reyes maintains his late season form from last year and claims the #5 spot, especially if James is actually hurt.

[NYMets523]

You really need to dial it back a bit on him. He's obviously not the guy he was in '98, but he's hardly the stiff you consistently make him out to be, either. He's the #3 guy on this staff, which is what it needs.

No, he is. I saw more of his starts than any other starter on the team. When he was bad, he was REALLY bad. He was essentially throwing batting practice in the 2nd half. His walk numbers were also up from last year, K numbers declined as usual. I'd be surprised if he recorded 200 innings. He was shot the last 3 starts of the season.

[metfan13]

I don't think they have done that much, really.

Okay, here are the Braves' main starters at this point, their ages, and injury history I can remember.

Smoltz - 41, since missing the 2000 and some of the 2001 season, he has had nagging injuries, but he hasn't missed significant time during the season.

Glavine - 42, basically the only incident that caused him to miss any time was when he was in a car wreck and lost his front teeth. I believe that he can be counted on to pitch.

Hudson - 32, I think he has done a good job of staying healthy, his question is effectiveness on game day.

Hampton - 33, basically, he hasn't pitched since May of 2005. He can't be counted on for anything unless he proves he can pitch again.

James - 26, the word is that he has a serious shoulder injury from pitching hurt in 2006, and he did miss a lot of time in 2005 with something dealing with his hamstring, I think.

Would any Mets fans like to help me out with Mets starters like this?

Hampton is 35. Can't add 1 to the last age in baseball ref cause he hasn't pitched in 2 years.