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  • is it fair that arod faces steroid scrutiny?

    based on what canseco has said? what could he possibly know about arod that he wouldnt mention in his first book? it just seems weird to me that canseco supposedly has the goods on the games most famous player, but decides to wait three years later to reveal info...if there's even any legit info to be revealed anyway.

    i ask because i read what arod said today http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring...ory?id=3254709

  • #2
    Originally posted by fenrir View Post
    based on what canseco has said? what could he possibly know about arod that he wouldnt mention in his first book? it just seems weird to me that canseco supposedly has the goods on the games most famous player, but decides to wait three years later to reveal info...if there's even any legit info to be revealed anyway.

    i ask because i read what arod said today http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring...ory?id=3254709
    At the moment, the problem is that you don't know which of these allegations are true and which not. If it is true, why didn't Canseco mention it in his first book.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Yankeebiscuitfan View Post
      At the moment, the problem is that you don't know which of these allegations are true and which not. If it is true, why didn't Canseco mention it in his first book.
      thats what im wondering about. it seems way to fishy to me.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yankeebiscuitfan View Post
        At the moment, the problem is that you don't know which of these allegations are true and which not. If it is true, why didn't Canseco mention it in his first book.
        Because he had to have enough material left for a sequel.
        :cap:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Silver Blaze View Post
          Because he had to have enough material left for a sequel.
          If this is true, then that means that he wanted to make money off of this controversy.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
            If this is true, then that means that he wanted to make money off of this controversy.
            This is news?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fenrir View Post
              based on what canseco has said? what could he possibly know about arod that he wouldnt mention in his first book? it just seems weird to me that canseco supposedly has the goods on the games most famous player, but decides to wait three years later to reveal info...if there's even any legit info to be revealed anyway.

              i ask because i read what arod said today http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring...ory?id=3254709
              I wouldn't put too much stock in this "book". Read this -
              Former Sports Illustrated associate editor Don Yaeger, who had initially planned on collaborating on Jose Canseco's next book, has decided against working with the former slugger, according to a published report.


              "I'm passing," Yaeger told the New York Daily News. "I had a chance to review the Jose Canseco [material] that he provided me. I don't think there's a book there. I don't know what they're going to do. I don't think he's got what he claims to have, certainly doesn't have what he claims to have on A-Rod. There's no meat on the bones."

              Canseco finalized a deal for his sequel to "Juiced" and it is expected to hit bookstores by Opening Day of the 2008 season, two New York newspapers reported last month.

              The working title of the book is "Vindicated."
              http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3182587

              This "book" will most likely be a farce. A lame attempt at trying to make money by smearing one of the game's greatest players.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Imgran View Post
                This is news?
                No, it isn't, but we don't really know if he was holding material or not. That is the real question.
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                • #9
                  Is it "fair?"

                  I guess that depends on if any of the allegations are true. To state the obvious, if he cheated then it's fair for him to be scrutinized, and if he didn't it isn't.

                  But, in absence of that, I guess I'd still say that it is "fair." Although, I'm not sure if that's the best word to use. Like it or not, Canseco has been one of the most reputable voices on this subject. The single individual with the best record of outing players pointed the finger at A-Rod, so in light of that scrutiny seems reasonable - though perhaps it is ultimately proven completely unjustified.

                  I'm stating for the record that I am a huge, huge fan of A-Rod. I have no real reason to believe he did anything illegal. I think he's unfairly attacked by the media on virtually a daily basis. But, I'm not sure that happened in this case. Accusations probably cross the line, but it seems reasonable to raise your antennas when Canseco points the finger at somebody.
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                  • #10
                    I wouldn't believe Canseco if he told me the Sun was going to rise in the East tomorrow. The fact that somethings he said turned out to be true does not remove the taint of being a scumbag.
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                    • #11
                      i hope none of its true because im a huge fan of arod. but if it is i'll treat him the same way ive treated clemens, bonds, mcgwire, etc. let's just hope he's clean because baseball truly needs him to be.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
                        I wouldn't believe Canseco if he told me the Sun was going to rise in the East tomorrow. The fact that somethings he said turned out to be true does not remove the taint of being a scumbag.
                        thats pretty much my opinion of him as well.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
                          I wouldn't believe Canseco if he told me the Sun was going to rise in the East tomorrow. The fact that somethings he said turned out to be true does not remove the taint of being a scumbag.
                          Well, he hasn't proven himself as an authority on astronomy (I guess that's what that would be), but he has proven himself to be pretty credible in this one specific area. I'm not saying his word is gospel, but in this specific area, his credibility far exceeds his overall credibility. You gotta admit that.
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                          • #14
                            No, he's only saying these things about A-Rod because he wants to remain in the public eye and make more money. If he had evidence that proved the games biggest star was taking steroids then he would have done something, not just claim he has and provide no evidence.
                            "I'm passing," Yaeger told the New York Daily News. "I had a chance to review the Jose Canseco [material] that he provided me. I don't think there's a book there. I don't know what they're going to do. I don't think he's got what he claims to have, certainly doesn't have what he claims to have on A-Rod. There's no meat on the bones."
                            That kind of shows me there isnt any actual evidence. The man makes his living by selling books. If there was enough evidence against A-rod, he wouldnt turn it down. It would be like turning down a winning lottery ticket.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fartingbob View Post
                              No, he's only saying these things about A-Rod because he wants to remain in the public eye and make more money.
                              These were the same allegations levied against him when he released his first book.

                              Again, I'm not saying I believe him, per se. The question is whether it is fair that A-Rod faces scrutiny. That's different than saying, do you think A-Rod juiced?

                              Many will make the argument that it is fair for every single player in the league to face scrutiny - that would include A-Rod regardless of anything Canseco did or did not say.

                              I think we may have a different interpretation of what the burden of proof is for "scrutiny" and how damning it is to be under it. For me, the bar is low, and the distinction means very little. Scrutiny doesn't imply an actual accusation, so scrutinize away...
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