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  • Old Sweater
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    Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
    I think the Rockies may have this rotation:
    Jeff Francis
    Aaron Cook
    Franklin Morales
    Ubaldo Jimenez
    Jason Hirsh



    and closer Corpas, others Vizcaino, Fuentes, Herges, Speier.

    Your choice of the bullpen I agree with except I think that Redman or Morales may be added for another lefty.

    No way does Morales get the 3 spot. The only 3 penciled in are........

    Francis
    Cook
    Ubaldo
    Hirsh (his spot to lose in ST)
    Rockies Idol try out like the 2nd base job. Kip Wells got a 1 year 3.1mil deal compared to Towers 1 year 1mil deal if you want to follow the money that the front office hates to eat.
    Last edited by Old Sweater; 02-28-2008, 09:48 AM. Reason: added to post

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  • Old Sweater
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    Originally posted by Imgran View Post
    I thought Morales was better than that. He throws hard as a lefthander, has good offspeed stuff, and he can strike people out. He might be a bit green yet but he looks like your prototypical high-ceiling power lefthander, a la Bedard, Santana etc. all starting out with similar command problems. Just knowing what I'd know I'd guess he's roughly in Jon Lester's neighborhood right now unless that command's a whole lot worse than it looked, and Lester looks to put up 170 average to slightly above average innings out of the #4 spot in the rotation this year. Morales can match that next year at age 22. Impressive.

    If he can overcome the command issues a lot of high-ceiling lefties have at his age he might make something of himself. And you never know when it's gonna happen either. Even without much progress with his command he's pretty danged good anyway so I hope he gets a good long look at being a 5th starter for you.

    Oh yeah, when Franklin Morales is on he is lights out. If his buddy Manny Corpas hadn't blew the save in the bottom of the 9th Morales would have beat the Padres and Jake Peavy 1-0 but all turned out good for the Rockies in extra innings with a 2-1 win. More consistent control for Morales and look
    out NL. A lot of fans that don't follow the Rockies much forget the only reason he was brought up last year was because of injuries to other starters Lopez(2nd DL trip)Hirsh/Elmer Dessens(who replaced Hirsh) and Cook. That is what really made that late season miracle streak impressive for me. The Rockies had lost 4 starters towards the end of the season. Mark Redman done OK and Franklin Morales done a good job as did Elmer Dessens before he got injured.

    I just hope that Morales don't get bullpen duty if he don't make the rotation. There is rumor of this since Redman and Morales are the only leftys to take Affeldt's place for having 2 leftys in the bullpen. Morales has said he would gladly accept bullpen duty to help the club but I believe he would be better off with the Sky Sox working on his control.

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    Originally posted by Old Sweater View Post
    Francis
    Cook
    Ubaldo
    TBA/Hirsh at this point
    TBA/Morales/Kip Wells/Josh Towers/Mark Redman

    I'm looking for Cook to have a breakout season.

    Closer/ Manny Corpas
    8th/Brian Fuentes
    7th/Luis Vizcaino
    Others/ Matt Herges/Ryan Speier?/Taylor Buchholz?/Kip Well?/Josh Towers?/Mark Redman lefty?/Franklin Morales?

    Best I've felt about the pitching since 1993 at the start of the season.
    I think the Rockies may have this rotation:
    Jeff Francis
    Aaron Cook
    Franklin Morales
    Ubaldo Jimenez
    Jason Hirsh



    and closer Corpas, others Vizcaino, Fuentes, Herges, Speier.
    Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 02-28-2008, 08:10 AM.

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  • Imgran
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    I thought Morales was better than that. He throws hard as a lefthander, has good offspeed stuff, and he can strike people out. He might be a bit green yet but he looks like your prototypical high-ceiling power lefthander, a la Bedard, Santana etc. all starting out with similar command problems. Just knowing what I'd know I'd guess he's roughly in Jon Lester's neighborhood right now unless that command's a whole lot worse than it looked, and Lester looks to put up 170 average to slightly above average innings out of the #4 spot in the rotation this year. Morales can match that next year at age 22. Impressive.

    If he can overcome the command issues a lot of high-ceiling lefties have at his age he might make something of himself. And you never know when it's gonna happen either. Even without much progress with his command he's pretty danged good anyway so I hope he gets a good long look at being a 5th starter for you.
    Last edited by Imgran; 02-28-2008, 07:15 AM.

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  • Old Sweater
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    Originally posted by Imgran View Post
    Underestimate Ubaldo Jimenez, Jeff Francis and Franklin Morales at your peril.
    Francis
    Cook
    Ubaldo
    TBA/Hirsh at this point
    TBA/Morales/Kip Wells/Josh Towers/Mark Redman

    I'm looking for Cook to have a breakout season.

    Closer/ Manny Corpas
    8th/Brian Fuentes
    7th/Luis Vizcaino
    Others/ Matt Herges/Ryan Speier?/Taylor Buchholz?/Kip Well?/Josh Towers?/Mark Redman lefty?/Franklin Morales?

    Best I've felt about the pitching since 1993 at the start of the season.

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  • Imgran
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    Underestimate Ubaldo Jimenez, Jeff Francis and Franklin Morales at your peril.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Originally posted by Old Sweater View Post
    Love it when these guys can't even spell the names right after their in depth research....LOL
    Mark McGuire and Cal Ripkin, Jr. anyone?

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  • Old Sweater
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    Originally posted by LouGehrig View Post
    Baseballs used at Coors Field are stored in a humidor, which has resulted in a decrease in offense, but despite lower scoring games, the Rockies lack solid starters. The Rockies will not make the playoffs in 2008.

    http://major-league-baseball.suite10..._lack_pitching

    youngster Franklin Morales, and journeymen Mark Redmond, and Kip Wells. It is a group that does not inspire confidence.

    Love it when these guys can't even spell the names right after their in depth research....LOL

    The Rockies have most of the staff coming back that was 8th in the NL ERA last year with a 4.68. Aslo the Rockies road ERA was only .05 lower then at home last year which is really quite remarkable since there is 15% more contact at Coors Field compared to sea level.

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  • LouGehrig
    started a topic The NL Champs Lack Pitching

    The NL Champs Lack Pitching

    Baseballs used at Coors Field are stored in a humidor, which has resulted in a decrease in offense, but despite lower scoring games, the Rockies lack solid starters. The Rockies will not make the playoffs in 2008.

    http://major-league-baseball.suite10..._lack_pitching

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