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  • Scott Spiezio in trouble with the law

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3267428

    An arrest warrant has been issued by the Irvine Police Department for St. Louis Cardinals utilityman Scott Spiezio on six charges stemming from a crash in late December.

    The warrant alleges driving under influence, driving under the influence with a blood alcohol content of .08 percent or more, hit and run, aggravated assault, assault and battery.
    Cardinals are turning into the Bengals of the MLB.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by OleMissCub View Post
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    Cardinals are turning into the Bengals of the MLB.
    This organization used to pride itself on only keeping guys who at least provided an illusion of intrgrity and character. They don't even seemed concerned about the image any more. People used to get traded here for flicking off fans or less. I wonder how the organization will respond to this- the fourth problem with illegal substances in less than 11 months.

    The on-the-field news isn't any better as this "rebuliding" team with little to "rebuild" with is staring down the barrel of an ugly season. I wonder how many seasons these loyal fans will support the team with on and off filed issues?
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    • #3
      Well, the Cardinals did cut Spiezio. Of course, they had to pay his salary, plus the buyout for next season.

      He'll need it for lawyers, although I predict he'll not do more than token jail time. After the season, of course.
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      • #4
        As a long time Cardinals fan, I too am getting a little tired of this type of thing. I'm glad that they cut Spiezio but I also wonder if they would do the same thing if the player involved was more important to their plans. There always seems to be more then a bit of hypocracy in modern MLB but such is life.

        I'm just glad that LaRussa hasn't done or said anything, yet, regarding this to further embarrass the organization as get all beligerant in some reporters face and defend Spiezio's behavior because he is own of LaRussa's boys or some such silly reason to defend clearly improper behavior. I feel sorry for Spiezio's dad Ed a long ago Cardinal of the late 60s.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BoweryBoys View Post
          I'm just glad that LaRussa hasn't done or said anything, yet, regarding this to further embarrass the organization as get all beligerant in some reporters face and defend Spiezio's behavior because he is own of LaRussa's boys or some such silly reason to defend clearly improper behavior.
          "I had heard there was an incident in California, but I didn't think anything would come of it"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by willisraverchk77 View Post
            "I had heard there was an incident in California, but I didn't think anything would come of it"

            --Tony Larussa
            He also heard there was injections going on in the A's clubhouse but he didn't think anything would come of that either.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bkmckenna View Post
              He also heard there was injections going on in the A's clubhouse but he didn't think anything would come of that either.
              I am not a Larussa fanboy (in fact I would love to see him out of town), but I hate to break it to people...every manager in MLB knew stuff was going on and none of them did anything about it. I know the Mitchell report is not comprehensive, but there are a dozen managers that managed many more players on that list (or in other implications) than Larussa. Why is Larussa the only one that gets tagged with this? Just because Canseco and McGwire are high-profile does not mean any more guys were roiding under Larussa than anybody else. Look at those Yankees teams...or Orioles...or Indians...or Rangers. Why isn't this notion thrown around with Torre all the time?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
                Why is Larussa the only one that gets tagged with this?
                So far, La Russa has been the most outspoken in defending (even advocating for) suspect players. He's put himself on the point.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by spark240 View Post
                  So far, La Russa has been the most outspoken in defending (even advocating for) suspect players. He's put himself on the point.
                  He has defended McGwire (which I agree stinks), but has bashed Canseco all over the place, and has remained silent on everybody else. Is there somebody else besides McGwire that I am not aware of him always defending? Did Baker defend Bonds? Did Torre defend any of his army of users? Again, I can't stand Larussa, but I am not sure the managerial blame is being handed out proportionately.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by STLCards2 View Post
                    I am not a Larussa fanboy (in fact I would love to see him out of town), but I hate to break it to people...every manager in MLB knew stuff was going on and none of them did anything about it. I know the Mitchell report is not comprehensive, but there are a dozen managers that managed many more players on that list (or in other implications) than Larussa. Why is Larussa the only one that gets tagged with this? Just because Canseco and McGwire are high-profile does not mean any more guys were roiding under Larussa than anybody else. Look at those Yankees teams...or Orioles...or Indians...or Rangers. Why isn't this notion thrown around with Torre all the time?
                    You are right, LaRussa should not be held up as the only manager in MLB today that does/would/may defend or want to ignore or downplay steroid use. I am a long time Cardinals fan and I have never cared for LaRussa as the manager, despite the 06 WS win, and will not miss him when he is eventually gone. What rubs me the wrong way about him is he seems to often have an apparent attitude when someone "outside the game" such as a reporter dares try to question something. I feel reporters have a right to do their job and fans, who pay the bills, have all rights to know full truth about everything. IMHO, MLB often seems to have a type of "closed shop" "none of anyone else's business" mentality and LaRussa sometimes seems to act like the poster boy for that idea. For example acting like an angry little boy because some reporter dares question the validity of some of McGwire's STL HRs. I guess all of us fans and everyone "outside the game" is supposed to just accept what happens without question or doubt. Sometimes LaRussa seems to have act insulted by the idea that anyone even has any doubts.

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                    • #11
                      is Pujols the only sober guy on that team??

                      it shows on the field

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                      • #12
                        Does the manager have to baby-sit the players. I don't blame the managers or coaches for player misconduct. They are suppose to be adults and act like one.
                        I'm sure contracts state what kind of behavior off the field is frowned on but
                        how can the staff keep track of each player.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OleMissCub View Post
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                          Cardinals are turning into the Bengals of the MLB.
                          It is very classless that these players on the team are throwing careers away only to be arrested and such. Scott Spiezio is probably done with baseball after this incident, and the rookie pitcher probably had his life changed permanently after this run-in with the law.

                          What's next? "Cesar Itzurus arrested for holding up toy store?" Seriously.

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                          • #14
                            He was tased and arrested by the cops yesterday. Lucky for him, he was only tased.
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