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    Found this on Deadspin.com. I don't know if it's legit or not.

    www.joelavin.com/canseco.html

    There I was, wandering through a quaint Cambridge bookstore on Monday, when I noticed a copy of Jose Canseco's new book "Vindicated: Big Names, Big Liars, and The Battle to Save Baseball" in their tiny sports section. That's odd, I thought. I didn't know the book had come out yet. It turns out that it hasn't. The book's not due to be released until April 1st, but, for some reason, there was a copy for sale. And so I bought it.

    It's a roughly 250-page book that deals with many things, but, of course, all you want to know about are the Big Names. In here, Canseco accuses three more players of using steroids, and they are:

    (Spoiler Alert: Don't read any further if you don't want to know how the book ends!)

    Magglio Ordonez
    Roger Clemens
    Alex Rodriguez

    The Ordonez story is, by now, routine -- just that old yarn of one player injecting another with steroids, possibly in the buttocks. Canseco does point out that the recent New York Times report -- that Canseco had offered to keep Ordonez "in the clear" if Ordonez invested five million dollars in a documentary that Canseco was producing -- is not true. Canseco says there was no blackmail, and that there is no documentary at all, which is Sundance's loss, I guess.

    Meanwhile, the evidence against Clemens is somewhat flimsy, and Canseco even admits that he's not completely sure that Clemens used steroids. After a home run, Clemens would just make jokes like, "Man, you must have had your juice this morning!" Other times, he would say that he was off to take his "B-twelve shots," which, Canseco says, is how players often refer to steroids. He does later state that Clemens did not attend the much-discussed barbecue at Canseco's house which was mentioned in the Mitchell Report.

    Canseco wanted to include his suspicions about Clemens in his first book, "Juiced," but the publishers wouldn't let him. When later he told 60 Minutes and ESPN about Clemens, the comments were mysteriously edited out of the reports. Canseco began to think there was some sort of conspiracy afoot, specifically:


    Roger Clemens was from Texas. He went to play for the Astros, to be close to his family. George W. Bush, a former owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, is, like Clemens, a proud Texan. Clemens is a personal friend of Bush Sr. and his wife, Barbara. Clemens still has a standing invitation from Bush Jr. to visit the White House anytime. Getting the picture? Maybe the president of the United States, or his daddy, the ex-president, made some calls and took care of things for good ole Roger.
    The saddest part of this entire book is that I think I might actually believe this. I really can see President Bush putting off the important work of government in order to help out a ballplayer.

    As for Alex Rodriguez, Canseco says he didn't inject Rodriguez, but that he "introduced Alex to a known supplier of steroids." Canseco didn't mention Rodriguez in the first book because he "hated the *******." He was worried that people would have "questioned [his] motives" had he included Rodriguez.

    Why all the hatred, you ask. Well, Canseco claims that A-Rod was trying to sleep with Canseco's wife. Apparently, even after Canseco had been nice enough to help A-Rod find a friendly steroids supplier, A-Rod kept calling Canseco's wife.

    And, in case there's any further confusion about Canseco's true feelings, he ends the chapter by saying:


    So A-Rod, if you're reading this book, and if I'm not getting through to you, let's get clear on one thing: I hate your f***ing guts.
    As for the Mitchell Report, Canseco feels he was ignored ("I was Mitch-slapped!") and is still bitter about it. Like many, he also feels that George Mitchell, a director of the Red Sox, showed a clear bias in favor of the Red Sox when conducting his investigation.
    In case you're wondering, this is all true because Canseco took a lie detector test. Actually, he took two different types of lie detector tests, and the results are included in the book. Or he could be just saying that he took a lie detector test. What we really need is for him to take a lie detector test to see if he really took a lie detector test. It's only a matter of time before he's a guest on Fox's "Moment of Truth."

    Of course, my problem here is that I've never really liked Canseco and have never really thought of him as a reliable witness, you know, except for the minor inconvenience that much of what he has said in the past has turned out to be true. It seems that most of the media feels this way too. We don't really want him to be telling the truth, but, at this point, who knows?

    By the way, Clemens and Rodriguez aren't the biggest names in the book. The biggest may well be Mike Wallace. Canseco describes a conversation the two had after his 60 Minutes interview:


    When the cameras stopped rolling, Wallace asked me if we could talk, off-camera. He kept me there for another hour, clearly curious about steroids. . . . He wondered how the steroids and human growth hormones (HGH) might help him, a man in his eighties, live a longer, healthier life. He wanted to know everything. . . . When Wallace was done interrogating me, I could see I had piqued his interest. Whether I'd made a convert of him, I can't say. Still, I know, I was pretty convincing.
    Yes, apparently, Mike Wallace could be juiced. It makes sense. How else to explain how Wallace has stayed on top of his game well into his eighties? No word yet on whether Andy Rooney is juiced too.

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    This should be in the literature section....
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    • #3
      Plus, a note to Canseco... I defended him in another thread, saying he had guts. Now I retract that. What a f*ing idiot. Everyone is to blame but him for his problems. God, what a deuch, he even tries to claim that he helped people like A Rod juice. I think ifit would have been this obvious, he would have been mentioned in the Mitchell report. Jeez, the man is on a sinking boat, and he istrying to bring down others with him.
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      • #4
        What really hurts Canseco's credibility this time around is that he's been out of the game for 6 years. It's highly doubtful that anyone in the game is going to confide new information in him, and any information he had from his own experiences in the game you'd think he would have raised in the last book. If he had something "juicy" on A-Rod, why wait until not to mention it? Why not mention it in the last book. The truth likely is that Canseco is grasping at straws, doing anything he can to stir the pot, gain publicity, and send those royalties rising. It really sickens me that a guy like Canseco, who epitomizes all that was wrong with the game during the 90s, is now able to further profit on it.

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        • #5
          One thing is dead certain.. I will not be purchasing this book. I hope A Rod and Clemens respond to this publicly.
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          • #6
            Andy Rooney has been on eyebrow roids since the '70s.

            I'd totally dismiss the stuff about ARod and Jose's wife if the whole Toronto stripper thing hadn't come up last season.

            I'm guessing that what's really happening is Jose is still in big debt and doing whatever he can to boost his bank account.
            "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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            • #7
              I fhe didn't choose to pick on 3 of the MLB's most popular players, then he may have had some sympathy. Why didn't he pick on Bonds and Rose instead lol
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              • #8
                id be surprised if arod juiced...but nobody is above suspicion.

                clemens being named yet again as a steroid cheat is about as surprising as the sun coming up every morning.

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                • #9
                  A list of players I hope have never juiced-
                  A Rod
                  Jeter
                  Maddux
                  Ryne
                  Sosa
                  Manny Ramirez(I know, but I see him as an ambassador for the sport)
                  Randy Johnson
                  Pedro
                  Ichiro

                  And wouldn't it be funny if it turned out Bonds, Giambi and Clemens were clean?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stejay View Post
                    A list of players I hope have never juiced-
                    A Rod
                    Jeter
                    Maddux
                    Ryne
                    Sosa
                    Manny Ramirez(I know, but I see him as an ambassador for the sport)
                    Randy Johnson
                    Pedro
                    Ichiro

                    And wouldn't it be funny if it turned out Bonds, Giambi and Clemens were clean?
                    bonds and giambi admitted to using steroids...so we know they aren't clean. clemens might as well admit to it too because the evidence that he juiced is really overwhelming.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fenrir View Post
                      bonds and giambi admitted to using steroids...so we know they aren't clean. clemens might as well admit to it too because the evidence that he juiced is really overwhelming.
                      When has Bonds explicidly admitted to steroid abuse? Giambi has, but not Bonds or Clemens
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by stejay View Post
                        When has Bonds explicidly admitted to steroid abuse? Giambi has, but not Bonds or Clemens
                        I don't think he ever admitted to "abuse", but he did claim that he took them "unknowingly". Plus we know that he had a failed test from '00 (or was it '01) in the BALCO labs.

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                        • #13
                          A failed test isn'tadmitting it though is it. Plus, he says that he used a cream for arthritis. That is not admitting to taking roids is it really?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stejay View Post
                            A failed test isn'tadmitting it though is it. Plus, he says that he used a cream for arthritis. That is not admitting to taking roids is it really?
                            He said he took them, but didn't know they were steroids. That was part of the "leaked" grand jury testimony.
                            Of course, that's not admitting to cheating, but admits that they did enter his body.

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                            • #15
                              ("I was Mitch-slapped!")
                              ^best part

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