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  • Los Bravos
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    Originally posted by spark240 View Post
    In any case, Petroskey cancelled on them--and on everyone who wanted to attend the event--not because he didn't want to politicize a baseball event, but because he personally disagreed with the content of the political speech that he anticipated.
    Exactly.

    He also used his spot to throw bones to his cronies, such as having former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer speak (which puts the lie to his disingenuous claim that he didn't want the HOF politicized.)

    He simply didn't like their views, and abused his authority to cancel an event that people were interested in. He was an embarrassment and the Hall is well rid of him.

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  • west coast orange and black
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    ^^
    any movie described as "awesome", by definition, can only be b-rate, at best.

    field of dreams and the natural were not part of the planned event, i believe.

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  • PeteF3
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    Bull Durham is awesome.

    Field of Dreams...that's a b-rate movie. Same with The Natural.

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  • west coast orange and black
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    kcghost: [Selig] can be criticized for the crude way in which he handled this matter but his concern was legitimate.

    "concern" for the celebration of the b-rate movie bull durham. how rich!

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  • PeteF3
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    There was one guy involved in that sorry episode who made it a political issue. And it wasn't somebody named "Tim" or "Susan."

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  • KCGHOST
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    Petroskey had every right to be concerned about Robbins and Sarandon using a non-political event as a forum to spout their views. He can be criticized for the crude way in which he handled this matter but his concern was legitimate.

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  • Mr. Grission
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    Bush was on the Veterans Committee ballot???
    Last edited by west coast orange and black; 03-26-2008, 12:26 PM.

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  • west coast orange and black
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    ccn: Regardless of what one thinks of our current sitting President, his short tenure as Rangers owner was without anything memorable happening and certainly did not warrant having his name forwarded as a finalist.

    what 1.8% ownership is worth, at times, eh?

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  • Pere
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    Maybe Robbins or Sarandon would have said something "political," maybe not. I don't think it would have been the end of the world, or even of the Hall, if they had. Bull Durham probably isn't my favorite baseball movie, but it's pretty good. They've done plenty for baseball, and if they had wanted to express some opinions as American citizens , I can't see what the harm would be. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have gotten the attention that Petroskey's cancellation got. For that matter, Petroskey could have taken the microphone after them and said his piece too , if he had to.

    In any case, Petroskey cancelled on them--and on everyone who wanted to attend the event--not because he didn't want to politicize a baseball event, but because he personally disagreed with the content of the political speech that he anticipated. Some patriot.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    Originally posted by PeteF3 View Post
    Like...when?
    At least one awards show (MTV?) where they mentioned a couple different things, then went on to present whatever award they were presenting. The host, I think it was Eddie Murphy, made a joke of it. And Saturday Night Live would later spoof the two. Janeane Garafolo, a Hollywood activist herself, played Sarandon.

    Regardless, and I'm not judging one way or another, you're right, Petroskey had other issues and his leaving is a good thing.

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  • PeteF3
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    Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    I don't blame Pretoskey for his paranoia over Sarandon and Robbins, they've used non-political venues as soapboxes before. But all I've heard is he didn't even bother approach either actor to not use the movie celebration as a soapbox for their views.
    Like...when?

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  • sturg1dj
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    Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    I've always been curious if Petroskey had any part in how his friend George W. Bush made it on the HOF VC ballot. Regardless of what one thinks of our current sitting President, his short tenure as Rangers owner was without anything memorable happening and certainly did not warrant having his name forwarded as a finalist. If this was done in the act of cronyism the HOF is far better off without him. Even if somehow Bush made the ballot via legit means, it's just one more embarrassment during his tenure as HOF President.

    I don't blame Pretoskey for his paranoia over Sarandon and Robbins, they've used non-political venues as soapboxes before. But all I've heard is he didn't even bother approach either actor to not use the movie celebration as a soapbox for their views. He simply cancelled without recourse.
    Bush did a lot...he traded Sammy Sosa and partially owned a team that not only took land away from other to build a tax financed stadium (and ended up making a huge profit) but also got to see such stars play as Jose Canseco, Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palemeiro...wait, what do they in common?

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    I've always been curious if Petroskey had any part in how his friend George W. Bush made it on the HOF VC ballot. Regardless of what one thinks of our current sitting President, his short tenure as Rangers owner was without anything memorable happening and certainly did not warrant having his name forwarded as a finalist. If this was done in the act of cronyism the HOF is far better off without him. Even if somehow Bush made the ballot via legit means, it's just one more embarrassment during his tenure as HOF President.

    I don't blame Pretoskey for his paranoia over Sarandon and Robbins, they've used non-political venues as soapboxes before. But all I've heard is he didn't even bother approach either actor to not use the movie celebration as a soapbox for their views. He simply cancelled without recourse.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Originally posted by PeteF3 View Post
    Wait, which is it? It's either paranoia or he can't be blamed, but it can't be both.

    Petroskey had other issues besides the Bull Durham incident and him being gone is a Good Thing.
    Ultimately, I attribute it to paranoia, because I don't think that Sarandon and Robbins would be stupid enough to talk about politics at an event honoring a baseball movie.

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  • PeteF3
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    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Paranoia at its finest, but I don't blame him for thinking that.
    Wait, which is it? It's either paranoia or he can't be blamed, but it can't be both.

    Petroskey had other issues besides the Bull Durham incident and him being gone is a Good Thing.

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