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  • #31
    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Like I said, ERA has a lot of weight attached to it.
    It kinda should

    <Campillo's stats may get knocked down in his next game: he's going to start game two of the doubleheader today.>

    But it could up his innings and strikeouts
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    • #32
      Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
      Like I said, ERA has a lot of weight attached to it.
      It kinda should

      <Campillo's stats may get knocked down in his next game: he's going to start game two of the doubleheader today.>

      But it could up his innings and strikeouts
      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
        Campillo is a rookie? I didn't see him before...
        He's not really a rookie. He has had some experience pitching with Seattle the past three seasons, but not much. This year with Atlanta is already the longest he has pitched in the majors. He started one game for Seattle in 2005, but for reasons I can't tell, he pitched just one inning before he had to be taken out of the game.
        46 wins to match last year's total

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
          He's not really a rookie. He has had some experience pitching with Seattle the past three seasons, but not much. This year with Atlanta is already the longest he has pitched in the majors. He started one game for Seattle in 2005, but for reasons I can't tell, he pitched just one inning before he had to be taken out of the game.
          Yes, I saw his numbers. He's a rookie, actually, he had only 15.2 IP for the Mariners.
          He's good.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
            Yes, I saw his numbers. He's a rookie, actually, he had only 15.2 IP for the Mariners.
            He's good.
            Yep. Just pitched six innings of three-hit ball with no runs, no walks and seven strikeouts against the Mets. I believed that he could start admirably, but I never expected him to hold the Mets off the board like that. :applaud:
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            • #36
              Some changes on the relievers standings:

              Code:
                                      MVR     ERA     IP      SO
              Yankees	Edwar Ramirez	10.0	0	12.2	15
              Blue Ja	B.J. Ryan	7.8	0.56	16	20
              Yankees	Mariano Rivera	6.8	0.45	20	17
              Royals	Joakim Soria	6.6	0.93	19.1	23
              Athle	Joey Devine	6.5	1.23	22	28
              Athle	Santi Casilla	6.4	0.93	19.1	22
              Red Sox	Hideki Okajima	5.6	0.86	21	18
              Blue Ja	Brian Tallet	4.7	1.27	21.1	20
              Twins	Joe Nathan	4.7	1.35	20	21
              CWSox	Scott Linebrink	4.6	1.17	23	18
              
              Phillie	Brad Lidge	8.3	0.43	21	24
              Dodge	Hong-Chih Kuo	7.8	0.89	20.1	28
              Mets	Billy Wagner	7.7	0.45	20	21
              Cubs	Carlos Marmol	7.4	1.69	32	46
              Astros	Tim Byrdak	6.6	0	13	6
              Rockie	Taylor Buchholz	5.0	1.27	28.1	22
              Dodger	Takashi Saito	4.7	1.66	21.2	26
              Pirates	John Grabow	4.6	1.48	24.1	23
              Marlins	Renyel Pinto	4.5	1.41	32	21
              Marlins	Doug Waechter	4.3	1.4	25.2	20
              The best reliever now - Edwar Ramirez - 10.0!!
              Is it surprise?
              Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 05-27-2008, 08:09 AM.
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              • #37
                Only for S.B.F the Braves--->

                Code:
                Phil Stockman	11.1	0	4.1	6
                Jorge Campillo	4.1	1.27	21.1	17
                Blaine Boyer	-0.1	3.94	29.2	29
                Manny Acosta	-0.3	2.81	25.2	15
                Will Ohman	-2.1	3.1	20.1	17
                Jeff Bennett	-3.0	3.86	25.2	16
                Peter Moylan	-11.8	1.59	5.2	5
                Chris Resop	-14.2	5.89	18.1	13
                Buddy Carlyle	-20.1	3.38	8	7
                Rafael Soriano	-27.8	2.25	4	5
                Royce Ring	-48.5	6.75	8	7
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
                  Only for S.B.F the Braves--->

                  Code:
                  Phil Stockman	11.1	0	4.1	6
                  Jorge Campillo	4.1	1.27	21.1	17
                  Blaine Boyer	-0.1	3.94	29.2	29
                  Manny Acosta	-0.3	2.81	25.2	15
                  Will Ohman	-2.1	3.1	20.1	17
                  Jeff Bennett	-3.0	3.86	25.2	16
                  Peter Moylan	-11.8	1.59	5.2	5
                  Chris Resop	-14.2	5.89	18.1	13
                  Buddy Carlyle	-20.1	3.38	8	7
                  Rafael Soriano	-27.8	2.25	4	5
                  Royce Ring	-48.5	6.75	8	7
                  Well, thank you for thinking of me. I see that you didn't add any of Campillo's new stats. He's a spot starter at the moment.
                  46 wins to match last year's total

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                    Well, thank you for thinking of me. I see that you didn't add any of Campillo's new stats. He's a spot starter at the moment.
                    This is Campillo's new stats! /from http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...=2008&grid=All /
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                    • #40
                      Seems as if they like Royce Ring more than you do.
                      46 wins to match last year's total

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                      • #41
                        Code:
                        Name	        MVR     CDM      SV      SO      ERA     IP
                        Mariano Rivera	7.8	209	15	24	0.36	25
                        Joey Devine	6.5	80	0	28	1.23	22
                        Santiago Casilla	6.4	71	1	22	0.93	19.1
                        Joakim Soria	6.2	169	12	26	1.16	23.1
                        Joe Nathan	5.1	199	15	25	1.46	24.2
                        
                        Billy Wagner	8.8	161	11	28	0.39	23
                        Brad Lidge	8.0	204	14	30	0.75	24
                        Hong-Chih Kuo	7.9	86	0	30	0.68	26.2
                        Carlos Marmol	6.8	132	3	55	2.43	37
                        Renyel Pinto	4.9	71	0	26	1.53	35.1
                        Code:
                        Name	        MVR      CDM      SV      SO      ERA      IP
                        
                        Jorge Campillo	4.1	38	0	17	1.27	21.1
                        Manny Acosta	1.6	111	3	22	2.73	29.2
                        Blaine Boyer	1.0	82	1	30	3.66	32
                        Will Ohman	0.7	74	1	21	2.7	23.1
                        Jeff Bennett	-1.0	58	1	19	3.64	29.2
                        Peter Moylan	-11.8	20	1	5	1.59	5.2
                        Buddy Carlyle	-13.5	16	0	7	2.89	9.1
                        Chris Resop	-14.2	31	0	13	5.89	18.1
                        Rafael Soriano	-14.5	26	1	9	2.57	7
                        Royce Ring	-28.4	28	0	8	5.4	10
                        Phil Stockman	11.1	10	0	6	0	4.1
                        John Smoltz	-1210.5	1	0	0	18	1
                        CDM is a fantasy value.
                        The best relievers right now- Mariano Rivera and Billy Wagner.
                        Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 06-03-2008, 02:36 AM.
                        The Voice of Croatia - Glas Hrvatske

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                        • #42
                          Now I feel like there's a huge penalization for one or two bad outings. With Royce Ring, he has appeared in 21 games and pitched in 10 innings. That's why he looks so bad.
                          46 wins to match last year's total

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                            Now I feel like there's a huge penalization for one or two bad outings. With Royce Ring, he has appeared in 21 games and pitched in 10 innings. That's why he looks so bad.
                            RR has a bad ERA 5.00, that's why he looks bad.
                            Moylan has few IP but he's ERA is good.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
                              RR has a bad ERA 5.00, that's why he looks bad.
                              Moylan has few IP but he's ERA is good.
                              Moylan is out for the season. And of course Ring's ERA is bad. He has so few innings pitched because he usually goes into a game to pitch just one out. Even one run allowed can have a huge effect on his ERA.
                              46 wins to match last year's total

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                              • #45
                                June/08 Standings

                                Code:
                                Team	  Name	        MVR	SV	SO	ERA	IP
                                Yankees	Mariano Rivera	7.3	16	27	0.64	28
                                Athlet	Joey Devine	6.5	0	28	1.23	22
                                Athlet	Santi Casilla	6.4	1	22	0.93	19.1
                                Marine	Brandon Morrow	6.2	0	23	1.13	16
                                Red Sox	JonathPapelbon	5.8	18	36	1.86	29
                                
                                Dodgers	Hong-Chih Kuo	7.9	0	30	0.68	26.2
                                Philli	Brad Lidge	7.8	17	35	0.96	28
                                Cubs	Carlos Marmol	7.5	3	60	2.25	40
                                Mets	Billy Wagner	6.8	13	29	1.08	25
                                Marlins	Renyel Pinto	5.4	0	29	1.43	37.2
                                Hong-Chih Kuo is the best. He has 26.2 IP and 30 SO, and a ERA 0.68.
                                Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 06-09-2008, 02:04 AM.
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