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  • Could Santana have some problems in adapting?

    I saw Santana being roughed up by the Brewers tonight. When he will be credited for the loss tonight, he will be 1-2.

    Could it be that he is having some trouble in adapting to the NL?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Yankeebiscuitfan View Post
    I saw Santana being roughed up by the Brewers tonight. When he will be credited for the loss tonight, he will be 1-2.

    Could it be that he is having some trouble in adapting to the NL?
    It could be, but I think that's a crazy notion. He's too talented to have to adjust so much to a clearly inferior league, and I'm not being sarcastic.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
      It could be, but I think that's a crazy notion. He's too talented to have to adjust so much to a clearly inferior league, and I'm not being sarcastic.
      That is what I think too. But going 1-2 in his first three games, makes one think.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yankeebiscuitfan View Post
        That is what I think too. But going 1-2 in his first three games, makes one think.
        In one of those losses, he pitched well, but the Mets scored just one run for him and didn't get any more until after he left.
        46 wins to match last year's total

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        • #5
          Let's wait until the end of May to see where Santana is before we can conclude that he may be struggling.
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #6
            Or it could be Santana's typical slow start. Check his record over his first 3-4 games the past few years.

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            • #7
              nobody is always perfect. Look at Oswalt's 0-3 start he got hammered along with me at the ball game friday night.

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              • #8
                If Johan has a losing record come the All Star break... that I will start to get worried.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by metfan13 View Post
                  Or it could be Santana's typical slow start. Check his record over his first 3-4 games the past few years.
                  Just what I was going to say, he is notorious for tearing it up in the second half.

                  Don't think he will have a problem adjusting in the end, he is pitching without a DH, and he doesn't have to face the Yanks/Red Sox/Indians/Tigers all the time.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah isn't his 3.05 ERA troubling?

                    18 K, 4 BB. He's wild.

                    He got roughed up to the tune of a 5.40 ERA for one game. That's a 5th starter.
                    (fantasy football)
                    JM: Only did that for a couple of years and then we had a conspiracy so it kind of turned me sour. Our league's commissioner, Lew Ford(notes) at the time, was doing some shady things that ... I'd rather not talk about [laughs].
                    DB: Isn't he in Japan right now?
                    JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].

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                    • #11
                      Santana always has slow starts. He should be 2-1 but the Mets couldn't hit off the Braves awful bullpen last week.

                      Also, check the Brewer's stats against lefties compared to righties so far.

                      Code:
                       I Split          G    PA    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  IBB  SO  HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB   CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip sOPS+ tOPS+ Split
                         vs RHP         22   279   254   34   59  17   0   5   30   14   1   55   2   7   2   2   2    7   1  .232  .276  .358  .634  .276    74    78 vs RHP       
                         vs LHP         15   132   118   21   34   6   0   8   21    7   1   23   4   1   2   5   1    3   1  .288  .344  .542  .886  .292   133   145 vs LHP
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                      "If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?" -Jeff Francoeur

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by plask_stirlac View Post
                        Yeah isn't his 3.05 ERA troubling?

                        18 K, 4 BB. He's wild.
                        Exactly. I can't stand people who fail to look past W/L record when evaluating a pitcher (coughcoughBBWAAcough).

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                        • #13
                          It's not like the days of him allowing fewer than 20 HR are over, they were never here. There was a jump up to 33 but 8 were to Cleveland, who figure him out or what have you.

                          Over the first half last year he had a 2.75 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, and 17 HR in 121 IP. That's definitely a high homer rate but the same effectiveness. If he had the second-half brilliance it might have been his finest season, but it wasn't to be.
                          (fantasy football)
                          JM: Only did that for a couple of years and then we had a conspiracy so it kind of turned me sour. Our league's commissioner, Lew Ford(notes) at the time, was doing some shady things that ... I'd rather not talk about [laughs].
                          DB: Isn't he in Japan right now?
                          JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].

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                          • #14
                            Here's some stats on Santana's home runs allowed last year

                            1 was an inside-the-park home run hit by Carl Crawford in Minnesota (shouldn't count, IMO)
                            10 came with 2 strikes
                            8 came when he was ahead in the count (at least 1 strike, at least 1 less ball)
                            17 came when he was behind in the count. 5 of which came on a full count.
                            24 were solo home runs.

                            Note: I did count Crawford's inside the park. Without it, it's one less HR with 2 strikes, ahead in the count, and solo home run.
                            "I'm happy for [Edwin Encarnacion] because this guy bleeds internally, big-time" -Dusty Baker

                            "If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?" -Jeff Francoeur

                            "At the end of the day, the sun comes up and I still have a job" -Joba Chamberlain

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                            • #15
                              I think the ease of his transition was a little overstated. He's pitching in the N.L. East, in my opinion, the best division in the N.L. He's gonna be making quite a few starts against teams with offenses that stack up against A.L. teams (obviously without a D.H.).

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