Is it worth it? (Puckett death)

[ballparks]

Am I the only one in this forum who wonders if there was a link to anabolic steroids in Kirby's past? Quite irregular for someone that young to get acute glaucoma and then die from a stroke 10 years later.

I'm not in any way presuming guilt, but just wondering if anyone else was thinking the same? I certainly hope that this is not the case, but if it were, wouldn't it be worthwhile to use this as a topic of education for our youth?

Again, I'm not assuming ANYTHING and am quite shocked by Kirby's passing. I just wonder if it's worth bringing up the topic.

[rockin500]

no. this is a lesson that you have to keep yourself in shape. no more no less.

[Kaliber]

I did find it odd at how Kirby went downhill so fast, but I dont think it had anything to do with steroids or anything like that.

[BasEbaLlKnoItAll]

I DOUBT it was steroid related.

It is no secret that he hasnt taken great care of himself the last few years. Thats what it was.

[DoubleX]

Am I the only one in this forum who wonders if there was a link to anabolic steroids in Kirby's past? Quite irregular for someone that young to get acute glaucoma and then die from a stroke 10 years later.

I'm not in any way presuming guilt, but just wondering if anyone else was thinking the same? I certainly hope that this is not the case, but if it were, wouldn't it be worthwhile to use this as a topic of education for our youth?

Again, I'm not assuming ANYTHING and am quite shocked by Kirby's passing. I just wonder if it's worth bringing up the topic.

I actually was thinking the same thing yesterday for the same reasons you stated (acute glaucoma, massive stroke at a young age, in addition to the production he got out of his fairly small frame), but decided now was not the time to bring this subject up. The sad thing about baseball now is that it's difficult, for me at least, to give players the benefit of the doubt. Nevertheless, I do believe that Kirby's death was very much related to his current physical condition, with some reports having him in excess of 400 lbs.

Anyway, I still don't think now is a good time for this conversation. I am very saddened by Kirby's death as he was a symbol for the greatness of the game as I was growing up; so perhaps we can revisit this discussion sometime down the road?

[rockin500]

my question, why bring it up at all? i dont know how you can logically even think of that?

his acute glaucoma was from getting drilled in the head. and he was always hefty plus he had several family members die before the age of 50. it is what it looks like. dont read more into what isnt there.

[ballparks]

I actually was thinking the same thing yesterday for the same reasons you stated (acute glaucoma, massive stroke at a young age, in addition to the production he got out of his fairly small frame), but decided now was not the time to bring this subject up. The sad thing about baseball now is that it's difficult, for me at least, to give players the benefit of the doubt. Nevertheless, I do believe that Kirby's death was very much related to his current physical condition, with some reports having him in excess of 400 lbs.

Anyway, I still don't think now is a good time for this conversation. I am very saddened by Kirby's death as he was a symbol for the greatness of the game as I was growing up; so perhaps we can revisit this discussion sometime down the road?

I was debating if bringing this up would be akin to 'dancing on a man's grave', and certainly don't want to offer any disrespect to any individual. I just wonder if there's anything to be gained by this discussion. If the mod feels it best to delay this debate, I'll defer to their expertise.

I appreciate the comment XX.

[VTSoxFan]

I thought glaucoma was almost always related to diabetes.

I don't know how I came to the idea that his glaucoma was discovered while he was undergoing treatment for the fractures sustained when he was beaned. That's probably not the case, but somehow or other I had that notion.

[rockin500]

I thought glaucoma was almost always related to diabetes.

I don't know how I came to the idea that his glaucoma was discovered while he was undergoing treatment for the fractures sustained when he was beaned. That's probably not the case, but somehow or other I had that notion.

nope. diabetes can cause it, but anyone with increased eye pressure is at risk. african americans are much higher at risk for it and usually suffer from it earlier than caucasions.

Secondary glaucoma develops after trauma to the eye that affects the drainage system. Injury, infection, inflammation, tumor or an enlarged cataract can precipitate secondary glaucoma

it also runs in families.

[ElHalo]

People die. That's kind of what we're here for. Whether you do steroids or not.

[johnny]

people are hesitant to bring it up because now is clearly not the right time.

let his family, his friends, and his fans grieve.

rest assured, there is time enough to discuss 'it' later.

[[email protected]]

I agree..

Not now, later..

Like they did for Cammi

[KCGHOST]

People die. It happens everyday.

[johnny]

People die. It happens everyday.

i am just referencing the 'it' issue. it should be clear enough when the medical report comes back.

[Mattingly]

Unless someone is a very experienced medical doctor or other highly seasoned medical professional who's studied deaths involving athletes or other steroid users, I'm not sure how one can state whether this would be unusual or not.

For example, does anyone konw what were the causes of death of the men in Kirby's family? If your father had high blood pressure and ate salty and/or fatty foods, would it be unusual that he would also die at an earlier age?

Many things aren't known here, and until there's even an autopsy (given that he's not of a religion which prohibits this), then I won't presume the lesser of Kirby, nor will I be trying to dig up dirt on him.

If a man gave his heart, his soul to baseball, when his life is taken away, at least let him rest peacefully.