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By now, I'm sure most of you have heard Hank Steinbrenner's comments that Joba should be a starter now. He said, "There is no question about it, you don't have a guy with a 100-mile-per-hour fastball and keep him as a set-up guy. You just don't do that. You have to be an idiot to do that." However, Cashman said, "Joba's staying in the bullpen right now," Cashman told Newsday on Monday. "That's where we're at. [Putting him in the rotation is] not something that's going to happen here early on, and [Hank] knows that. We've talked about it. I don't know what set him off." On Monday, the two talked it out and came to some agreement. I ask you, what should Joba's role be?
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38Starter47.37%18Reliever52.63%20Originally posted by bhss89Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy -
I should add one thing: I mean his role right now, not in a few yearsOriginally posted by bhss89Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy -
I'll just stick with what Girardi decides.
Hankie S. is acting like a fantasy leaguer.Comment
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Whatever the baseball people decide.Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of BaseballComment
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I think it's worth trying him out as a starter. Maybe not this year but definitely next year. He might be better off as a reliever but I personally want to see him start. It might turn out that he's better as a reliever. I don't think the great Mariano would have been a great starter and as much as I love him, a closer is not as valuable as a starter. 150 innings > 80 innings. I am divided on the issue though.
ScottI told you not to be stupid you moron.Comment
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few players can throw high 90's or 100 and survive as a starter...maybe Joba can. I see Joba as more of a Zumaya then a Verlander though. If anything you have the greatest closer in baseball history getting old and you have a young stud ready to replace him
what kind of moron is Hank though?
look at this list
the 100 mph club
by my count 37 players
15 starters
22 relievers
and if you look at the top scores, most are relievers. Hanks gonna be pissed when Joba's arm dies from trying to throw 100 the entire game!Last edited by sturg1dj; 04-23-2008, 12:22 PM."Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."
-Bill JamesComment
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Starter. He's wasted in the set-up role and won't close for 3 more years. Don't make him a starter tomorrow but he shouldn't be a set-up man for 3 years."I'm happy for [Edwin Encarnacion] because this guy bleeds internally, big-time" -Dusty Baker
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?" -Jeff Francoeur
"At the end of the day, the sun comes up and I still have a job" -Joba ChamberlainComment
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actually what am I thinking....start him...pitch him 9 every game and tell him to throw lights out the entire game. unless he's Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson or Roger Clemens I see his arm dying. One less dominating reliever in the American League.
but at least he seems more mature than Joel Zumaya at this point so you don't have to worry about him playing too much Guitar Hero or flipping ATV's or doing keg stands!"Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."
-Bill JamesComment
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Hank says some of the dumbest things, and I thought it was going to get boreing after George steped down.
they would have to prepare him for the rotation anyway and that's going to take time and that's not going to help the Yanks current pitching situration. So why rush him into the rotation and risk injury and possibley loseing out on a young pitcher with great stuff for good?39 AL Pennants • 26 World Series titles
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I'll admit I am an idiot....I figured Hank would be more polished than George...boy was I wrong. A whole new reason to hate the Yanks...haha"Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."
-Bill JamesComment
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I'm not sure I understand. Is Joba a reliever for a short time (like Johan Santana and Francisco Liriano where) or is Girardi making him a reliever permanently?Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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It shouldn't take that long perhaps by mid season at the most. In '06 Francisco Liriano started the season as a reliever but by mid May was in the starting rotation. The Twins did the same thing with Johan Santana in 2002-03. If the Twins can do it with two stud pitchers why not the Yankees?Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View PostStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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I think the difference is how ready they areOriginally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
Johan had 343 IP in the minors
Liriano had 494
and Joba has 88.1 + around 200 in college."Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."
-Bill JamesComment
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I know Rivera will be around for awhile, but I think Joba would be a great closer if Rivera got hurt or somethingOriginally posted by bhss89Originally posted by ChineseDemocracyComment
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The Yankee's need to remeber that you need a good to great pitcher to get from the starter to Rivera.Comment
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