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    CINCINNATI (AP)—The Cincinnati Reds have fired general manager Wayne Krivsky and replaced him with former St. Louis GM Walt Jocketty.

    The Reds are off to their worst start in five years. The firing wasn’t as much a surprise as the timing.

    Krivsky knew his job was in jeopardy when owner Bob Castellini hired Jocketty as a special consultant in January. The two were friends from Castellini’s days in the Cardinals’ ownership group.

    When the Reds got off to a 9-12 start, Castellini made a switch that was expected at some point. Krivsky, who was hired before the 2006 season, was in the final year of his contract.

    Again, the Reds are looking for direction.

    Jocketty is the team’s fourth general manager in six years, an instability that has prevented them from setting a course. The Reds also have been through two owners, four managers and an interim manager during that span.

    The uncertainty at the top has contributed to Cincinnati’s worst slump in more than a half-century. The Reds haven’t had a winning record since 2000, when Ken Griffey Jr. joined the team.


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    AP - Apr 23, 12:06 pm EDT
    Jocketty’s job will be to set a course for the impatient owner, who has increased the payroll and expanded the front office during his two years in charge but hasn’t been able to produce a winner.

    Jocketty left the Cardinals last year, only one year removed from winning the World Series. Front-office friction left him out of a job even though he’d helped the Cardinals get to the playoffs seven times in 12 seasons.

    The Reds haven’t been since 1995.

    One of Castellini’s first major decisions as owner was to fire GM Dan O’Brien and replace him with Krivsky, who had helped the small-market Minnesota Twins prosper despite a limited payroll.

    Cincinnati’s payroll increased from $69 million last year to $74.3 million on opening day, 18th in the majors. The team’s struggles on the field underscored the organization’s lack of direction.

    Krivsky showed a fondness for signing older pitchers and making a flurry of trades. One of his most expensive decisions was giving left-handed reliever Mike Stanton a two-year, $5.5 million deal, far more than anyone else was offering. The tight-budget Reds got rid of him during spring training even though he was still owed $3.5 million.

    Krivsky also pulled off an eight-player deal with Washington in 2006 that sent outfielder Austin Kearns and shortstop Felipe Lopez to the Nationals for relievers Gary Majewski and Bill Bray. The deal hasn’t made much of an impact for either team.

    The Reds hired Dusty Baker as manager in the offseason, hoping to stabilize that position.

    Jocketty will have a couple of major decisions in the coming months. Griffey is in the final year of his contract—there’s a club option for next year at $16.5 million—and Adam Dunn is making $13 million in the last year of his deal



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  • #2
    This is a story that was just waiting for a date. Castellini and Jocketty are close. Kvisky didn't do a bad job other than the horrible Dunn trade. He picked up some pretty decent talent (David Ross, Jeff Keppinger, Brandon Phillips, Dave Weathers, etc) for pennies on the dollar.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
      This is a story that was just waiting for a date. Castellini and Jocketty are close. Kvisky didn't do a bad job other than the horrible Dunn trade. He picked up some pretty decent talent (David Ross, Jeff Keppinger, Brandon Phillips, Dave Weathers, etc) for pennies on the dollar.
      ?? Dunn trade? IIRC, he was drafted and developed by the Reds.

      I'd have to disagree with you, however. All the guys you mentioned, with the exception of Brandon Phillips, are pretty marginal at best. The Reds have always had some nice supporting players, but none of his pitching moves have really panned out (minus Harang). Throw in that embarassing situation with Majewski a couple years ago, and I'd have to say he's failed at assembling a decent pitching staff.

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      • #4
        Keppinger has played in every game thus far this year for the Reds, and had an .889 minor league OPS in 2007 (plus a major league OPS+ of 123 in 241 AB, followed up by a 119 this year). Not really marginal.

        The worst move Krivsky made, though, was hiring Dusty Baker as manager for a team with two great young arms in Cueto and Bailey and a couple of great OBP guys in Votto and Dunn. That's just asking for failure.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
          Kvisky didn't do a bad job other than the horrible Dunn trade.
          I think you mean Austin Kearns :cap:
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rapmaster View Post
            ?? Dunn trade? IIRC, he was drafted and developed by the Reds.

            I'd have to disagree with you, however. All the guys you mentioned, with the exception of Brandon Phillips, are pretty marginal at best. The Reds have always had some nice supporting players, but none of his pitching moves have really panned out (minus Harang). Throw in that embarassing situation with Majewski a couple years ago, and I'd have to say he's failed at assembling a decent pitching staff.
            Um, Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Volquez, whoever the 5th guy is is a decent staff. Would you believe how great Weathers was, the Reds last year had only ONE loss when leading after 8 (remember last year's bullpen). Krivsky aquired the Reds' first legit closer since Danny Graves in EDDIE GUARDADO and aquired another in Francisco Cordero. Jeff Keppinger seems to be some good trade bait on ALL 5 of my fantasy teams. David Ross was amazing in 2006 as was Bronson Arroyo. The trade with Washington got rid of a lot of trash (not really Kearns but Lopez and Wagner) and got Daryl Thompson (amazing kid). Krivsky got Hatteberg for cheap and stole Josh Hamilton which led to Edinson Volquez.
            LOOK AT THIS LIST
            3-21-06: Acquired David Ross for Bobby Basham.
            4-7-06: Acquired Brandon Phillips for Jeff Stevens.
            7-6-06: Acquired Eddie Guardado for Travis Chick.
            12-7-06: Acquired Josh Hamilton for cash.
            1-10-07: Acquired Jeff Keppinger for Russ Haltiwanger.
            12-21-07: Acquired Edinson Volquez and Danny Herrera for Josh Hamilton.

            All this production in the majors for no production in the majors.
            Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
            The worst move Krivsky made, though, was hiring Dusty Baker as manager for a team with two great young arms in Cueto and Bailey and a couple of great OBP guys in Votto and Dunn. That's just asking for failure.
            Castellini made the decision to hire Dusty. Krivsky wanted Pete Mackanin.
            Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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            • #7
              Krivsky did well moving from the Sean Casey and Paul Wilson era to now.

              The Majewski move was bad, for sure.

              That said, Jocketty assembled Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, and Carpenter in one team where Krivsky might have not have one player that good. Plus he was patient and found bargains like Carp, Ankiel the hitter, and Ryan Franklin.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
                Keppinger has played in every game thus far this year for the Reds, and had an .889 minor league OPS in 2007 (plus a major league OPS+ of 123 in 241 AB, followed up by a 119 this year). Not really marginal.

                The worst move Krivsky made, though, was hiring Dusty Baker as manager for a team with two great young arms in Cueto and Bailey and a couple of great OBP guys in Votto and Dunn. That's just asking for failure.
                The Astros had no problem with Cueto and the Reds today with half their bench starting the game. You guys (red fans) must hate Lance Berkman for how he hits the ball in Cincinatti.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by KCGHOST
                  This is a story that was just waiting for a date. Castellini and Jocketty are close. Kvisky didn't do a bad job other than the horrible Dunn trade. He picked up some pretty decent talent (David Ross, Jeff Keppinger, Brandon Phillips, Dave Weathers, etc) for pennies on the dollar.



                  Originally posted by Rapmaster View Post
                  ?? Dunn trade? IIRC, he was drafted and developed by the Reds.

                  I'd have to disagree with you, however. All the guys you mentioned, with the exception of Brandon Phillips, are pretty marginal at best. The Reds have always had some nice supporting players, but none of his pitching moves have really panned out (minus Harang). Throw in that embarassing situation with Majewski a couple years ago, and I'd have to say he's failed at assembling a decent pitching staff.

                  Hey, that is the Ghost you are replying to. Mostly hit and run in the threads I've read.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by holyroman View Post
                    The Astros had no problem with Cueto and the Reds today with half their bench starting the game. You guys (red fans) must hate Lance Berkman for how he hits the ball in Cincinatti.
                    He's taken over for Biggio.

                    Three hits and a stolen base. Pretty solid performance for him.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redlegsfan21 View Post
                      Um, Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Volquez, whoever the 5th guy is is a decent staff. Would you believe how great Weathers was, the Reds last year had only ONE loss when leading after 8 (remember last year's bullpen). Krivsky aquired the Reds' first legit closer since Danny Graves in EDDIE GUARDADO and aquired another in Francisco Cordero. Jeff Keppinger seems to be some good trade bait on ALL 5 of my fantasy teams. David Ross was amazing in 2006 as was Bronson Arroyo. The trade with Washington got rid of a lot of trash (not really Kearns but Lopez and Wagner) and got Daryl Thompson (amazing kid). Krivsky got Hatteberg for cheap and stole Josh Hamilton which led to Edinson Volquez.

                      LOOK AT THIS LIST
                      3-21-06: Acquired David Ross for Bobby Basham.
                      4-7-06: Acquired Brandon Phillips for Jeff Stevens.
                      7-6-06: Acquired Eddie Guardado for Travis Chick.
                      12-7-06: Acquired Josh Hamilton for cash.
                      1-10-07: Acquired Jeff Keppinger for Russ Haltiwanger.
                      12-21-07: Acquired Edinson Volquez and Danny Herrera for Josh Hamilton.

                      All this production in the majors for no production in the majors.

                      Castellini made the decision to hire Dusty. Krivsky wanted Pete Mackanin.
                      You considering the Eddie Guardado deal good? The same Eddie Guardado, who pitched a grand total of 27.2 innings in his two seasons in Cincinnati? Why are you listing it along decisions like Phillips and Hamilton?The rest of decision you mention are good, I don't believe you have to list the Ross deal. Ross did hit .203 in his "good" season. Why didn't you list the Pena for Arroyo deal? Arroyo's one good season easily trumpets Ross and Guardado deal. At least, if Pena never develops into a great player.

                      What's odd is people are eyes are on Cueto and Bailey, and rightfully so, but Volquez been dominate to start the season. The main problem with Volquez in Texas was his control. At this point, he's seems to have corrected that problem. I fully expected him to outperform Cueto this season and Bailey. Volquez for Hamilton addressed a needed for Cincinnati, another starting pitcher. Developing Volquez, Cueto and Bailey can make a lethal 1-2-3 combination, if they develop to their full potential. I also like the deal, because I have my doubts regarding Hamilton's ability to remain healthy. Hamilton has a high ceiling, but it's not like the Reds are lacking offense. Texas likely under the assumption Hamilton can be a start. Still, not sure why Texas part with a pitching prospect. Texas hasn't had a good pitcher since Rick Helling went 20-7 one year.
                      Last edited by Evangelion; 04-25-2008, 11:55 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Well, in 2006, we had no closer and Eddie Guardado came in and pitched lights out for us helping greatly with our bullpen issues unti he got injured. This was the deal I was most excited for in the 2006 season because I honestly didn't know anything about any of the other players. I didn't list the Arroyo-Pena deal probably because I just missed it.
                        Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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