where do Barry Bonds threads go now that he isn't playing

[sturg1dj]

I ask because I have a classic article that I found that is a good read.

if you don't want to think about race and Barry Bonds and baseball then don't read it.


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[west coast orange and black]

replace "bonds" and "kent" and the article is still about perception and race relations as much as anything else.
i believe that it ougtta remain in current events.

[KCGHOST]

Considering Bonds next meaningful appearance may be before "twelve men, tied and true" maybe we need a Legal forum.

[Whitesoxnut]

Yeah, how about Jail for starters. Thats where you or I would go for lieing to a grand jury.

[DownUnderDodger]

Perhaps in the History Forum, given he is seemingly "history" as a player

Seriously though I would have thought that Bonds is part of a 'big picture' involving steroids/drugs in Baseball, and as that is still a current issue I guess it is still part of the Current Events Forum.

[Blackout]

i hear if you trade in a barry bonds thread into a clinic they'll give you a clean player to make a new thread about

[Imgran]

He's an active free agent. Still belongs here.

[SHOELESSJOE3]

I ask because I have a classic article that I found that is a good read.

if you don't want to think about race and Barry Bonds and baseball then don't read it.


link

Not that Salon could be guilty of bias, could that be. Type in Barry Bonds in that search box and review all the one sided articles in the archives, all slanted in favor of Barry.

Joan Walsh, King Kaufman and Allan Berra all come to Barry's rescue time and time again, in past articles. All of the history of Salon's past casts some doubt of their being objective in particular the one article, Bonds/Kent that we are advised to look at that one being by Walsh. Don't take my word for it, do as I did, consider the source, go to the source with an open mind and see if there is a pattern.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Not that Salon could be guilty of bias, could that be. Type in Barry Bonds in that search box and review all the one sided articles in the archives, all slanted in favor of Barry.

Joan Walsh, King Kaufman and Allan Berra all come to Barry's rescue time and time again, in past articles. All of the history of Salon's past casts some doubt of their being objective in particular the one article, Bonds/Kent that we are advised to look at that one being by Walsh. Don't take my word for it, do as I did, consider the source, go to the source with an open mind and see if there is a pattern.

Right, because there is even less anti-Bonds articles, threads and whatever else than there are pro-Barry threads. Just looking on this very forum alone, one would be quite hard-pressed because all of three writers haven't just thrown Bonds to the lions. The strangest word here is objective. Sacred, precious, convenient history.

I forgot, Bonds is the only player who used. Him and Clemens. only they can take any heat for a problem that is largely being ignored in terms of how widespread it is. Which is the most unfortunate thing of all out of this.

Bonds has not retired. Bonds still has an agent and there is rumbling after rambling about where he might go. He's still very much in line with this forum.

[SHOELESSJOE3]

Right, because there is even less anti-Bonds articles, threads and whatever else than there are pro-Barry threads. Just looking on this very forum alone, one would be quite hard-pressed because all of three writers haven't just thrown Bonds to the lions. The strangest word here is objective. Sacred, precious, convenient history.

I forgot, Bonds is the only player who used. Him and Clemens. only they can take any heat for a problem that is largely being ignored in terms of how widespread it is. Which is the most unfortunate thing of all out of this.

Bonds has not retired. Bonds still has an agent and there is rumbling after rambling about where he might go. He's still very much in line with this forum.

That is certainly true, they are not alone but it's the same old story, the bigger the man, the bigger the story. Certainly their accomplishments in the game is one of the reasons they have that big target on their backs, unfair but thats just the way it is.

[Captain Cold Nose]

That is certainly true, they are not alone but it's the same old story, the bigger the man, the bigger the story. Certainly their accomplishments in the game is one of the reasons they have that big target on their backs, unfair but thats just the way it is.

It may be the way it is, but it doesn't excuse the singular vitriol. Society's ills can't be legitimately blamed on one man. Nor can baseball's. There are so many parties complicit of this scandal it's beyond unfair to act as if Bonds is the end-all be-all of all of this. And a man who's likely far more responsible for how widespread steroids got is treated as a hero? Oh, he didn't break any precious, sacred blessed records, so it's ok that he pushed steroids at x amount of players. But Canseco is merely a cog in all of this, so I can't rag on him too much.
And it doesn't matter that steroids have been prevalent in athletics for years before Bonds and Balco crossed paths and hundreds upon hundreds of players over the past two decades have used, with a league and team executives knowing full well what was going on. How could they not have, Olympians were getting tossed left and right who were too stupid or too arrogant to believe there would be implications. But, that all gets a pass, because as long as there is a target to lock on for irrational hatred, why actually pay attention to anything that is really going on.

If it's ok to be unfair . . .

[SHOELESSJOE3]

It may be the way it is, but it doesn't excuse the singular vitriol. Society's ills can't be legitimately blamed on one man. Nor can baseball's. There are so many parties complicit of this scandal it's beyond unfair to act as if Bonds is the end-all be-all of all of this. And a man who's likely far more responsible for how widespread steroids got is treated as a hero? Oh, he didn't break any precious, sacred blessed records, so it's ok that he pushed steroids at x amount of players. But Canseco is merely a cog in all of this, so I can't rag on him too much.
And it doesn't matter that steroids have been prevalent in athletics for years before Bonds and Balco crossed paths and hundreds upon hundreds of players over the past two decades have used, with a league and team executives knowing full well what was going on. How could they not have, Olympians were getting tossed left and right who were too stupid or too arrogant to believe there would be implications. But, that all gets a pass, because as long as there is a target to lock on for irrational hatred, why actually pay attention to anything that is really going on.

If it's ok to be unfair . . .

Agree 100 percent, that is why I closed with, it's unfair but thats just the way it is. Don't be mislead by my words " thats just the way it is", not uncaring, stateing a fact, a fact that certainly troubles me, I don't like that fact either. Many things in all walks of life are judged that way. And I do agree, it's not, never is OK to be unfair.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Agree 100 percent, that is why I closed with, it's unfair but thats just the way it is. Don't be mislead by my words " thats just the way it is", not uncaring, stateing a fact, a fact that certainly troubles me, I don't like that fact either. Many things in all walks of life are judged that way. And I do agree, it's not, never is OK to be unfair.

I got you. I didn't think you were saying it is right for it to be that way, but it is indeed a sad truth.

By no means am I condoning what Bonds did or am trying to defend him. I do think those who have been branded as Bonds defenders on this site just want him treated fairly in compared to the actual issue as well as those who are just as guilty, if not moreso, as he is.

Sorry, folks. Didn't mean to get sidetracked. This thread was started with an honest question, not really an invitation to continue the indictment against him, which has to happen no matter what the topic is, it seems. But, from one CE mod's viewpoint, Bonds matters are still current events.

[west coast orange and black]

shoelessjoe3: ...it's the same old story, the bigger the man, the bigger the story.

"the medium is the message"

what the media do with a story is their business; what we do with it, ours.

[SHOELESSJOE3]

shoelessjoe3: ...it's the same old story, the bigger the man, the bigger the story.

"the medium is the message"

what the media do with a story is their business; what we do with it, ours.

I hear ya WCOB, just making the point, what the media can do and unfortunate some in the public live by that. I can see why Steve Carlton gave the reporters the silent treatment for years.