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  • KCGHOST
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    We've moved on a couple months and now I would go with Lee and Haren.

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  • bob
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    If Lee can keep his numbers going he'll be a certainty. 14-2 on a team 13 games under .500? Thats very rare territory.
    Id go for Haren in the NL so far, although its a clos call between him and lincecum IMO.

    I expect Rivera may well end up in the top 5 voting again, he's having another great season as closer.

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    Cy Winner Candidates

    Code:
    CYP                            W       L        ERA
    7.44	Cliff Lee	Indians	14	2	2.29
    6.59	Roy Halladay	Blue J	12	7	2.87
    5.58	Ervin Santana	Angels	11	5	3.57
    5.11	J Duchscherer	Athle	10	7	2.37
    4.90	Dais Matsuzaka	Red Sox	11	1	2.63
    4.80	Joe Saunders	Angels	13	5	3.1
    4.69	Scott Kazmir	Rays	8	5	2.84
    4.65	John Lackey	Angels	8	2	3.02
    
    6.28	Tim Lincecum	Giants	10	3	2.79
    6.22	Brandon Webb	Dia	14	4	3.14
    6.01	Dan Haren	Dia	10	5	2.56
    5.90	CC Sabathia	Brewers	10	8	3.3
    5.89	Edinson Volquez	Reds	12	3	2.81
    5.60	Ben Sheets	Brewers	10	3	2.87
    5.40	Cole Hamels	Phillie	9	6	3.27
    5.28	Ryan Dempster	Cubs	11	4	2.99
    Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 07-29-2008, 04:15 AM.

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    CY Award Winner candidates:
    Code:
    CYP	Name	           W	L	ERA	IP	SO
    2.98	Cliff Lee	13	2	2.29	133.2	110
    3.29	Ervin Santana	11	3	3.34	129.1	122
    3.32	Roy Halladay	11	7	2.94	150	125
    3.35	Ju Duchscherer	10	6	1.87	115.2	70
    3.39	Dai Matsuzaka	10	1	2.65	88.1	77
    
    2.94	Edinson Volquez	12	2	2.53	121	127
    3.15	Tim Lincecum	10	3	2.8	131.2	139
    3.21	Brandon Webb	13	4	3.11	139	116
    3.30	Dan Haren	9	5	2.58	132.2	119
    3.34	Ben Sheets	10	3	2.88	128	111
    CYP=[30*(ERA+WHIP)+ 2*L - 10*W - IP - SO]/IP + 5

    The lower CYP value is better...
    so Cliff Lee and Edinson Volquez are the Cy Winner, right now.
    Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 07-21-2008, 06:42 AM.

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    Originally posted by Solrac View Post
    Zagi W-L aren't a good way to see who's better.
    ERA+ WHIP SO/BB SO/9IP are a better way to do it.
    Webb isn't even the best pitcher on his TEAM.
    Yes, I know. CYP shows who could be the Cy Winner this year...
    And for the Cy Winner Award - wins, ERA and SO are the most important.

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  • yamsi12
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    tim lincecum

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  • OleMissCub
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    Originally posted by Solrac View Post
    Zambrano 157 ERA+
    Webb 140 ERA+
    Santana 144 ERA+

    Guess who guess who...has the wider view

    And something tells me you're probably 12

    P.S. Webb isn't even the best pitcher on his TEAM.
    Haren 166 ERA+
    What I found laughable was that he was literally laughing at people who thought Zambrano could be a candidate for Cy Young when three of the last four seasons he has finished in the Top 5 for Cy Young voting.

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  • Solrac
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    Originally posted by dbacksfan95 View Post
    no,airhead.some people just have a much too wide view. fans of zambrano for Cy Young,
    Zambrano 157 ERA+
    Webb 140 ERA+
    Santana 144 ERA+

    Guess who guess who...has the wider view

    And something tells me you're probably 12

    P.S. Webb isn't even the best pitcher on his TEAM.
    Haren 166 ERA+

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  • redlegsfan21
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    Originally posted by Solrac View Post
    How did Webb get 21 votes!?!?
    He's not even the best pitcher on his TEAM!!
    This poll is very old.

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  • Solrac
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    How did Webb get 21 votes!?!?
    He's not even the best pitcher on his TEAM!!

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  • Solrac
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    Zagi W-L aren't a good way to see who's better.
    ERA+ WHIP SO/BB SO/9IP are a better way to do it.
    Webb isn't even the best pitcher on his TEAM.

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    My list for Cy Award July/13

    Code:
    CYP	Name	        W	L       ERA	IP       SO
    6.83	Cliff Lee	12	2	2.31	124.2	106
    6.53	Roy Halladay	11	6	2.75	144	119
    5.82	Ervin Santana	11	3	3.34	129.1	122
    5.73	Ju Duchscherer	10	5	1.82	108.2	66
    4.64	Joe Saunders	12	5	3.07	120.1	63
    4.30	Josh Beckett	9	5	3.94	112	107
    4.09	John Danks	7	4	2.67	114.2	94
    
    6.55	Edinson Volquez	12	2	2.33	116	124
    6.26	Tim Lincecum	10	2	2.58	125.2	131
    5.83	Brandon Webb	13	4	3.23	131	112
    5.73	Ben Sheets	10	3	2.85	123	108
    5.53	Cole Hamels	9	6	3.15	142.2	126
    5.19	Dan Haren	8	5	2.72	125.2	112
    4.88	Johan Santana	8	7	2.84	126.2	114
    Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 07-14-2008, 04:26 AM.

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  • Solrac
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    Originally posted by dbacksfan95 View Post
    no,airhead.some people just have a much too wide view. fans of zambrano for Cy Young,
    Why not??
    2006
    Webb 16-8
    Zambrano 16-7
    Waw...it seems that Zambrano should have won the CY Award.
    His record was better

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    June/23

    Code:
    Name	        CYP	CDM	W	L	ERA	WHIP
    Cliff Lee	5.9	274	10	1	2.45	1.08
    Roy Halladay	5.0	283	8	6	2.96	1.05
    Ervin Santana	5.0	283	9	3	3.17	1.05
    Jus Duchscherer	4.6	208	8	4	1.99	0.97
    Scott Kazmir	4.6	190	6	3	2.03	1.02
    
    Edinson Volquez	7.1	301	10	1	1.74	1.17
    Tim Lincecum	5.1	267	7	1	2.55	1.22
    Ryan Dempster	5.0	277	9	2	2.63	1.11
    Brandon Webb	5.0	302	11	4	3.40	1.12
    Ben Sheets	4.8	252	8	1	2.74	1.09
    Is Volquez Mr.Miracle??

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  • Zagi-CRO
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    June/15

    Code:
                    CYP     W        L      ERA
    Cliff Lee	5.9	10	1	2.55
    Scott Kazmir	5.0	6	2	1.74
    Roy Halladay	4.7	8	6	3.16
    Ervin Santana	4.2	8	3	3.4
    Shaun Marcum	4.1	5	3	2.43
    Joe Saunders	3.9	10	3	3.06
    Dai Matsuzaka	3.8	8	0	2.53
    Felix Hernandez	3.4	5	5	2.81
    Josh Beckett	3.3	7	4	3.87
    Jus Duchscherer	2.9	6	4	2.2
    
    Edinson Volquez	6.9	9	1	1.67
    Brandon Webb	6.0	11	2	2.73
    Tim Lincecum	5.7	7	1	1.97
    Ben Sheets	4.4	7	1	2.72
    Ryan Dempster	4.4	8	2	2.81
    Johan Santana	4.3	7	4	2.85
    Cole Hamels	3.9	6	4	3.27
    Carlos Zambrano	3.8	8	2	2.98
    Aaron Cook	3.7	10	3	3.29
    Tim Hudson	3.4	7	4	2.76

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