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  • Who is the third best pitcher of the new generation?

    Round 1 & 2 Results:
    1.Johan Santana: 45% (14 Votes)

    -Jake Peavy: 19% (6 Votes)
    -Brandon Webb: 16% (5 Votes)
    -Roy Halladay: 10% (3 Votes)
    -Roy Oswalt: 6% (2 Votes)
    -Josh Beckett: 3% (1 Vote)
    [B]2.Roy (Doc) Halladay: 37% (7 Votes)[B]
    -Brandon Webb: 26% (5 Votes)
    -Josh Beckett: 16% (3 Votes)
    -Carols Zambrano: 16% (3 Votes)
    -Roy Oswalt: 5% (1 Vote)


    So here's the setup. The pitcher must be under the age of 32, and have at least 75 MLB starts. Poll is open 4 days

    Vote for your new top choice ...


    Code:
    Player            GS      IP    W    L    CG   SHO     K's    ERA+    WHIP   BI    GI
    Bedard, Erik      115     682   42   35    1   1       659    120     1.33    2    19
    Buehrle, Mark     240   1,665  108   78   23   7       966    122     1.26    7    78
    Beckett, Josh     171   1,048   80   54    4   2       993    116     1.22    4    41
    Haren, Danny      128     824   53   45    5   0       642    114     1.23    3    44
    Hernandez, Felix   80     516   32   27    4   2       462    112     1.30    0    21
    Grienke, Zack      77     499   24   36    3   0       353    105     1.33    0    14
    Kazmir, Scott      98     574   35   30    1   1       622    122     1.39    5    16
    Peavy, Jake       179   1,136   80   52    6   3     1,136    120     1.18   23    80
    Oswalt, Roy       216   1,455  115   57   12   4     1,203    139     1.21   14    94
    Sheets, Ben       196   1,269   77   74   14   2     1,080    114     1.19    6    52
    Sabathia, C.C.    226   1,444  101   68   16   5     1,179    113     1.28    9    78
    Webb, Brandon     170   1,136   72   55   12   7       917    145     1.23   20    77
    Zambrano, Carlos  187   1,240   85   56    7   2     1,077    132     1.28    5    91

    Bedard, Erik:
    2002-2007: Balitmore Orioles
    2008-: Seattle Mariners

    Buehrle, Mark:
    2000-: Chicago White Sox
    -No-Hitter in 2006
    -3 All-Star Appearances
    -2 Playoff Appearances
    -1 WS Ring

    Beckett, Josh:
    2001-2005: Florida Marlins
    2006-: Boston Red Sox
    -1 All-Star Appearance
    -2 Playoff Appearances
    -2 WS Rings
    -1 Cy Young Award

    Haren, Danny:
    2002-2003: St. Louis Cardinals
    2004-2007: Oakland Athletics
    2008-: Arizona Diamondbacks
    -1 All-Star Appearance
    -2 Playoff Appearances
    -1 WS Ring

    Hernandez, Felix:
    2005-:Seattle Mariners

    Grienke, Zack:
    2004-: Kansas City Royals

    Kazmir, Scott:
    2004-: Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays
    -1 All-Star Appearance

    Peavy, Jake:
    2002-: San Diego Padres
    -2 All-Star Appearances
    -2 Playoff Appearances
    -1 Cy Young Award

    Oswalt, Roy:
    2001-: Houston Astros
    -1 Inning of No-Hitter in 2003
    -3 All-Star Appearances
    -2 Playoff Appearances

    Sheets, Ben:
    2000-: Milwaukee Brewers
    -3 All-Star Appearances

    Sabathia, C.C.:
    2001-: Cleveland Indians
    -3 All-Star Appearances
    -2 Playoff Appearances


    Webb, Brandon:
    2002-: Arizona Diamondbacks
    -2 All-Star Appearances
    -1 Playoff Appearance
    -ROY Award
    -1 Cy Young Award

    Zambrano, Carlos:
    2001-: Chicago Cubs
    -2 All-Star Appearances
    -2 Playoff Appearances
    41
    Bedard, Erik
    0.00%
    0
    Buehrle, Mark
    2.44%
    1
    Beckett, Josh
    7.32%
    3
    Haren, Danny
    0.00%
    0
    Hernandez, Felix (King)
    0.00%
    0
    Grienke, Zack
    0.00%
    0
    Kazmir, Scott
    2.44%
    1
    Peavy, Jake
    24.39%
    10
    Oswalt, Roy
    17.07%
    7
    Sheets, Ben (Big)
    0.00%
    0
    Sabathia, C.C.
    0.00%
    0
    Webb, Brandon
    41.46%
    17
    Zambrano, Carlos
    4.88%
    2
    Other
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by The Dude; 05-15-2008, 11:24 PM.
    AL East Champions: 1981 1982
    AL Pennant: 1982
    NL Central Champions: 2011
    NL Wild Card: 2008

    "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

  • #2
    I'm gonna go with Peavy here.
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    • #3
      Another vote to Peavy, although Webb is building a case for himself (that certainly hasnt been hurt by his 8-0 start this year!)

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      • #4
        I'm interested to see if there's a surge of votes for Webb after his 9 for 9 tonight.
        AL East Champions: 1981 1982
        AL Pennant: 1982
        NL Central Champions: 2011
        NL Wild Card: 2008

        "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

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        • #5
          Webb is even nastier with that change he throws now. Out of all the good pitching in the NL West I hate it most when the Rockies have to face him.

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          • #6
            Brandon Webb showed the best persisting during the last 2-3 years.
            I'll give him 5 stars...

            Webb - *****
            Beckett - ***
            Peavy - ***
            Zambrano -**
            Hernandez - *

            What's about Maine, Matsuzaka, Hamels?
            Last edited by Zagi-CRO; 05-16-2008, 01:16 AM.
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            • #7
              John Maine!? One full season (and that was just okay)? Better than Matsuzaka though, I'll give you that. Hamels hasn't proven enough yet, but he should be up there soon.

              For the poll, I went with Webb by a hair over Peavy. After those two, I'd go with Oswalt. After that I'm not sure.

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              • #8
                Kaz. No question. A winner for a losing team, an innings horse, and a league-leader in strikeouts, and he was effective despite horrendous Tampa defense behind him. With a much better D this year we should see a better Kaz.

                Although I'm not sure that Kaz is really in the same generation as some of these others like Peavey and Sabbathia. Not unless the likes of Lester, Buchholz, Verlander, Jered Weaver, etc. are too.
                Last edited by Imgran; 05-16-2008, 07:29 AM.

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                • #9
                  Kazmir is great, but IMO, he doesn't belong up with Peavy and Webb. He's in the running for my 6th spot (after Webb, Peavy, and Oswalt).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zagi-CRO View Post
                    What's about Maine, Matsuzaka, Hamels?
                    I'll just refer you back to the first post in the thread; all candidates must have at least 75 MLB starts, which Maine, Dice-K, and Hamels have not yet attained.
                    AL East Champions: 1981 1982
                    AL Pennant: 1982
                    NL Central Champions: 2011
                    NL Wild Card: 2008

                    "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

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                    • #11
                      I go Webb, Oswalt, Peavy

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                      • #12
                        I'm going with Peavy as well.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by holyroman View Post
                          I go Webb, Oswalt, Peavy
                          Exactly the same here. :applaud:
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                          • #14
                            peavy should be #2

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                            • #15
                              I don't understand why Josh Beckett has any votes at all. He got a vote for #1, 3 for #2 and he's up to like 4 now for #3. What in the world does this guy have going for him outside of post-season play? I guess John Smoltz was better than Greg Maddux and Roger Clemens, too, because he was lights out in the post-season? Give me a break!

                              Beckett is solid but shouldn't touch anywhere near the top 5, IMHO. I voted Peavy but I really feel he should be #2 and Oswalt #3.
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