Texas Rangers: One of sports' worst franchises?

[Uncle Charlie]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the Rangers get mentioned enough when people discuss the worst franchises in sports. It's not that they've been terrible, they've just never really done anything. They haven't had fewer than 70 wins in a full season since 1973, and haven't had more than four straight losing seasons, but they haven't had a season better than 95-67, and have only gone 1-9 in playoff games. They've had a lot of good players, they just haven't been able to put it together.

[NYMets523]

They don't seem to identify talent well. They've let a lot of guys slip away and got little in return.

[Seattle1]

Also, one major handicap they had was when George W. Bush was in charge of the team for a number of years. I mean just look what he has done to our beloved Nation, and you get the idea.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Also, one major handicap they had was when George W. Bush was in charge of the team for a number of years. I mean just look what he has done to our beloved Nation, and you get the idea.

*rolls eyes* I really, really hope you're being sarcastic. The Rangers were mediocre, but not terrible, in the years where he was part-owner.

1989: 83-79
1990: 83-79
1991: 85-77
1992: 77-85
1993: 86-76
1994: 52-62

In December of 1994, Bush resigned his 1.8 percent owner post, but still had a stake in the team, which profited from the land that was purchased around it.

How about doing a little research next time, eh? It works wonders.

[califangels72]

gwb and the rangers

*rolls eyes* I really, really hope you're being sarcastic. The Rangers were mediocre, but not terrible, in the years where he was part-owner.

1989: 83-79
1990: 83-79
1991: 85-77
1992: 77-85
1993: 86-76
1994: 52-62

In December of 1994, Bush resigned his 1.8 percent owner post, but still had a stake in the team, which profited from the land that was purchased around it.

How about doing a little research next time, eh? It works wonders.

yea... but BUSH had alot to do with the rangers new ballpark....which isnt exactly pitching friendly...and LOUSY...HORRIBLE pitching...really... has held the rangers back...year after year!

so seattle1 is right....BUSH even with a minority interest managed to jack up the rangers!!

[SamtheBravesFan]

yea... but BUSH had alot to do with the rangers new ballpark....which isnt exactly pitching friendly...and LOUSY...HORRIBLE pitching...really... has held the rangers back...year after year!

so seattle1 is right....BUSH even with a minority interest managed to jack up the rangers!!

Er... what does Bush have to do with the Rangers' inability to get decent pitching for a hitter's park? The Red Sox have managed to do that for years.

[Seattle1]

Yeah it's all part of the "Curse of the Rangers," unfortunately for them.

[SamtheBravesFan]

But what has just transpired doesn't prove a thing except that Bush had a large hand in getting a hitter's park. If that's the case, which is obvoiusly is, is it not up to the people who actually put the team together to get some pitching? Or did Bush have a large hand in that and I didn't know about it?

[nerfan]

The Rangers have a guy on pace for about 165 RBI's. They are scoring more than 5 runs a game. Right now, they're getting KILLED by their horrendous defense.

[zahavasdad]

Al Gore should have had the following Campaign Slow

George Bush will do for our country what he Did for the Texas Rangers

[bob]

They are performing much better than their record this year suggests. If their pitchers get their act together they have a reasonable shot at a playoff spot thanks to the general weakness of the AL west right now.

[bigtime39]

Also, one major handicap they had was when George W. Bush was in charge of the team for a number of years. I mean just look what he has done to our beloved Nation, and you get the idea.

I don't know what--if anything--the walking disaster known as George W Bush did as part-owner of the Texas Rangers, but how he got to be part-owner is an example of how corrupt he is, not to mention the oil and baseball businesses.
W invested about $400 of his own money in the Rangers (the rest was "borrowed" from his daddy's rich friends) and walked out a millionaire. Good work, if you can get it.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Out of the spirit for the rules of this forum, let's not use this thread as an invitation to attack the current President. As Sam said, he has very little to do with the rangers inability to get decent pitching.

Keep the politics out, as always. Further political posts will be removed.

[hellborn]

When I lived down in Dallas, Bobby V and Tom House shredded up their young pitching prospects like they were heads of lettuce destined for a Wendy's salad. They chewed up Ed Correa and Jose Guzman in a couple of years, and they could never help Bobby Witt harness his stuff and throw strikes. Most prospects aren't going to pan out, but those two got nothing out of a lot of highly regarded young pitchers, and it makes me sick to hear people say that they're geniuses.

[SamtheBravesFan]

When I lived down in Dallas, Bobby V and Tom House shredded up their young pitching prospects like they were heads of lettuce destined for a Wendy's salad. They chewed up Ed Correa and Jose Guzman in a couple of years, and they could never help Bobby Witt harness his stuff and throw strikes. Most prospects aren't going to pan out, but those two got nothing out of a lot of highly regarded young pitchers, and it makes me sick to hear people say that they're geniuses.

Correa? It looks like he had no control whatsoever and he didn't lead the league in walks only because of Witt. In the minors, he spent three years in Appleton (A White Sox) and his BB/9 totals were all over the place. Was he really that highly regarded?