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  • Why hasn't anyone mentioned the HR thing

    We've seen lots of Umps screw up HR calls in the last few days...opinion?

    Mine, I blame the architect of any of those given stadium. I just watched the Best Damn Sports Show's best baseball plays ever, and you know, in the old days (1995 and earlier) THE WALL WAS A WALL if the ball went over it was unlikely at best the ball would come back into play. MLB should make all stadiums from here on out have a 4' buffer between a wall and any structure behind it. or something like that?

    The foul pole?????? maybe call it the fair pole?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tigers527 View Post
      The foul pole?????? maybe call it the fair pole?
      In recent years more are calling it the fair pole. The pole or screen that some use is completley in fair territory. It's just a matter of choice.

      We could say the same about the foul line, it is completely in fair territory...........the fair line, I think foul pole and foul line are here to stay.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tigers527 View Post
        The foul pole?????? maybe call it the fair pole?
        I don't know why one is perceived as being more correct than the other. The line is the demarcation of fair and foul territory.

        "Foul line" is a compound noun.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by tigers527 View Post
          The foul pole?????? maybe call it the fair pole?
          The foul line/pole is a correct term for it since on the other side of it, you are no longer in fair territory. Go past that line and you are in foul territory.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by digglahhh View Post
            I don't know why one is perceived as being more correct than the other. The line is the demarcation of fair and foul territory.

            "Foul line" is a compound noun.
            Agreed I really don't see any reason to change. Others can make their own choice.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rockin500 View Post
              The foul line/pole is a correct term for it since on the other side of it, you are no longer in fair territory. Go past that line and you are in foul territory.
              Off the top, I'm with you on that. My earlier post #3, I was only pointing out that the whole of it is in fair territory, I call it the foul pole.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rockin500 View Post
                The foul line/pole is a correct term for it since on the other side of it, you are no longer in fair territory.
                I might try using that logic the next time I lose a coin flip. I'll call "heads", and if it comes up tails, I'll say "on the other side of that coin it's heads. So, I win."

                No matter how you slice it, "fair line" makes more sense than "foul line", since the line is 100% in fair territory.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ipitch View Post
                  I might try using that logic the next time I lose a coin flip. I'll call "heads", and if it comes up tails, I'll say "on the other side of that coin it's heads. So, I win."

                  No matter how you slice it, "fair line" makes more sense than "foul line", since the line is 100% in fair territory.
                  I really think we've got something going here.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ipitch View Post
                    I might try using that logic the next time I lose a coin flip. I'll call "heads", and if it comes up tails, I'll say "on the other side of that coin it's heads. So, I win."

                    No matter how you slice it, "fair line" makes more sense than "foul line", since the line is 100% in fair territory.
                    Nice try.

                    But the analogy would be whether you'd be willing to concede that you lost if the coin miraculously lands on it's edge. The foul line would be the vertical side of the coin in your analogy.

                    It's like a border on a map - it's neither one or the other. The line simply separates fair from foul territory, the fact that it is in play is irrelevant.

                    Again, it's not foul line, as in a line that is foul. It's foul line.

                    It's where one thing ends and the other begins, which is ending and which is beginning depends on which direction you are coming from. In fact, if you consider that the judgment would most logically be made from the perspective of the fielders, who are on the field, in play, foul line is actually the better choice.

                    Oh, and according to quantum mechanics, the ball never even really touches the line anyway, right?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by digglahhh View Post
                      Nice try.

                      It's like a border on a map - it's neither one or the other. The line simply separates fair from foul territory, the fact that it is in play is irrelevant.

                      Again, it's not foul line, as in a line that is foul. It's foul line.

                      It's where one thing ends and the other begins, which is ending and which is beginning depends on which direction you are coming from. In fact, if you consider that the judgment would most logically be made from the perspective of the fielders, who are on the field, in play, foul line is actually the better choice.
                      I think it's fine that it's called the foul line, but I don't know how anyone can say that it makes MORE sense it to call it that. Let's say that a wall is on property X, right up against the border of property Y. To be clear, it is 100% on property X. Would it make more sense to call it property X's wall, or property Y's wall?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ipitch View Post
                        I think it's fine that it's called the foul line, but I don't know how anyone can say that it makes MORE sense it to call it that. Let's say that a wall is on property X, right up against the border of property Y. To be clear, it is 100% on property X. Would it make more sense to call it property X's wall, or property Y's wall?
                        But that goes back to the compound noun thing. Foul isn't an adjective modifying the word noun, foul line is the term.

                        It refers to what it does, not where it is.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by digglahhh View Post
                          But that goes back to the compound noun thing. Foul isn't an adjective modifying the word noun, foul line is the term.

                          It refers to what it does, not where it is.
                          At this time, I'm seeing it the same, it's there for a purpose even though it is in fair territory.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by digglahhh View Post
                            Nice try.

                            But the analogy would be whether you'd be willing to concede that you lost if the coin miraculously lands on it's edge. The foul line would be the vertical side of the coin in your analogy.

                            It's like a border on a map - it's neither one or the other. The line simply separates fair from foul territory, the fact that it is in play is irrelevant.

                            Again, it's not foul line, as in a line that is foul. It's foul line.

                            It's where one thing ends and the other begins, which is ending and which is beginning depends on which direction you are coming from. In fact, if you consider that the judgment would most logically be made from the perspective of the fielders, who are on the field, in play, foul line is actually the better choice.

                            Oh, and according to quantum mechanics, the ball never even really touches the line anyway, right?

                            Maybe they should call it the "foul line segment"!
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                            • #15
                              Neither makes more sense. "Fair line" doesn't mean "a line which is fair". Either term simply refers to "the line beyond which territory is fair/foul".

                              If you're just calling it "fair line" because it's in fair territory, why not go all the way? Fair center field, fair first base, fair pitcher's mound, etc...

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