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  • #31
    Originally posted by trosmok
    BTW, I also think Cleveland will finish behind Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit and Kansas City this season, so what do I know.
    Cleveland behind KC? How much ya wanna place on that?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ubiquitous
      I see the marlins winning over 70 games this year.

      Granted I never thought it would 78, I was thinking more along the lines of closer to 75 then to 80. But well done Marlins, just goes to show you that you don't needs tons of money to win games and have talent on your team.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ubiquitous
        Granted I never thought it would 78, I was thinking more along the lines of closer to 75 then to 80. But well done Marlins, just goes to show you that you don't needs tons of money to win games and have talent on your team.
        See Chicago, Boston, and a slew of other teams not in the playoffs to show that money doesn't matter, talent and health do...

        And notice that San Diego, Minnesota, Detroit and Oakland made the playoffs- small(er) markets taking up half the playoff spots.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by RuthMayBond
          a SINGLE season. They said the Marlins payroll was $18 mil
          I thought it was exactly $14,999,500. Alex' contract averages $25,200,000 (x 10 yrs).

          I'm not sure of the spreadsheet formula to get the actual percentage increase from Florida's 2006 payroll to Alex' average salary.

          Originally posted by efin98
          See Chicago, Boston, and a slew of other teams not in the playoffs to show that money doesn't matter, talent and health do...

          And notice that San Diego, Minnesota, Detroit and Oakland made the playoffs- small(er) markets taking up half the playoff spots.
          I'll agree that the "money = playoff" thing is way overrated.

          Doesn't Oakland, being a part of California's Bay Area, therefore have a sizeable surrounding area and population?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ubiquitous
            Granted I never thought it would 78, I was thinking more along the lines of closer to 75 then to 80. But well done Marlins, just goes to show you that you don't needs tons of money to win games and have talent on your team.
            They could have won 80 games if they had just gone 5-5 over their last 10 games! Had they flipped their 3-7 record over the last 10, they would have been a better than .500 ball club. I think we all know they could not have done it without the brilliance of Theo Epstein. Way to go Theo!
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            • #36
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              Originally posted by Mattingly
              .....
              I'll agree that the "money = playoff" thing is way overrated.

              Doesn't Oakland, being a part of California's Bay Area, therefore have a sizeable surrounding area and population?
              Waaay overrated is a rather humorous understatement, two-three, considering the wisely spent money the Dead Sox and my Chicago Flubs contributed to the expulsion of the myth.

              Oakland is unique among California cities, in that the city itself has some of the lowest income in the area >$22,000/yr. while the surrounding county holds some of the highest income families <$75,000/yr. median per capita. Another thing about the city is that it is roughly 1/3 Black, 1/3 White, and 1/3 Asian or Hispanic. Can't think of any other city in the USA that racially equal in diversity. For the demographics breakdown I found:

              http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Oakland.htm
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