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    BY KEVIN BAXTER
    [email protected]
    SAN JUAN - Major League Baseball officials met with promoters in San Juan two days ago to discuss the possibility of moving some regular-season games, including at least one series involving the Marlins, as early as this season.

    ''We've talked about the possibility of the Marlins playing down here for a limited number of games,'' said baseball president Bob DuPuy. ``Given the current situation in Miami and the absence of any plan for a stadium . . . I'm sure they'd be willing to look at it.''

    But P.J. Loyello, the Marlins' vice president of communications, said the club has not been contacted about moving any games.

    ''We would like to see more games with the Marlins played here in Puerto Rico,'' said Enrique Cruz of MB Sports, the San Juan promoters who put on the Expos' 44 games in San Juan in 2003-04 as well as the 12 WBC games taking place here this month. ``We would like to have games [with] either the Marlins or the Devil Rays this year and the next year.''

    Another baseball official said several teams have been mentioned in talks with MB Sports.

    DuPuy admitted it would difficult to get anything done this season.
    ''We've listened to Enrique and [MB Sports CEO] Antonio Muñoz, and we'll go back and talk about it in our office and then talk to teams,'' DuPuy said. ``If it's possible, we'll talk to them. And if it's not, then we'll look at it for 2007, 2008 or 2009.''

    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/14100691.htm
    Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

  • #2
    BY BARRY JACKSON AND MIKE PHILLIPS
    [email protected]

    The Marlins informed San Antonio on Tuesday that it will be ''a few more weeks'' before the team and Major League Baseball decide whether to pursue more serious negotiations about moving the team there, Bexar County (San Antonio) Judge Nelson Wolff said Tuesday.

    Wolff, the county's highest-ranking politician, said MLB and the Marlins want to analyze the ''stadium proposal, media market and economics of San Antonio'' before deciding whether to go forward.

    ''If it's a favorable conclusion, they will come down and talk to us [for a second time],'' Wolff said. ``It leaves me cautiously optimistic. They are taking it seriously.''

    Bexar County has offered to ask voters to extend a hotel and car rental tax to cover $200 million of an open-air stadium that Wolff estimates will cost at least $300 million. The deadline for calling a November election would be early August. Before an election is called, Wolff would insist on negotiating a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with the Marlins.

    Though MLB has given the Marlins permission to talk with San Antonio, it has not decided whether to allow the team to enter into an MOU with the county. BizJournal.com recently released a study expressing concerns about whether San Antonio, the nation's 38th-largest media market, could support a second professional team.

    Wolff said if the issue is taken to voters, ''It would have to be done with the understanding'' the Marlins ''are coming.'' That could be tricky, because moving the team would take the approval of three-quarters of big-league owners.

    ''They're not going to negotiate this unless they really want to come here,'' Wolff said. ``That's why they're taking all this time.''

    The Marlins have kept in contact with Hialeah officials, but no significant progress has been made toward building a retractable-roof stadium locally.

    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/14100679.htm
    Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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    • #3
      Tom Orsborn and Chuck McCollough
      Express-News Staff Writers

      County Judge Nelson Wolff said Thursday that two potential baseball stadium sites in Northeast Bexar County have been mentioned to the Florida Marlins, and a third in that area will be passed on to the team.

      "We showed them land near (Retama Park in Selma) and also the Longhorn Quarry," Wolff said.

      The third site is in Live Oak near Loop 1604 and Interstate 35.

      All three sites for the proposed open-air, baseball-specific stadium are privately owned.

      "We'll show them any site that has potential," Wolff said at a luncheon for the Northeast Partnership for Economic Development, a coalition of Randolph AFB-area suburban cities.

      Patrick Zeller/Express-News

      Wolff's comments came one day after he informed the Marlins that the county would put up to $200million toward an estimated $300million ballpark if voters were to extend taxes on hotel occupancy and rental cars.
      Wolff said he has not received a response. A memorandum of understanding must be developed between the team and the city before an attempt is made to put the proposal on the Nov.7 ballot.

      "We've done all we can do," Wolff said. "It's up to them to respond. They need to come down here and see if they like the deal or go somewhere else."

      The Marlins' lease at Dolphins Stadium expires in 2007, but they can play there through 2010 by exercising a series of one-year options. Talks for a new stadium in South Florida have stalled, leading the team to explore relocation options.

      Marlins officials, including team president David Samson, visited San Antonio in December. They say they also have visited Portland, Ore., and talked with representatives of Norfolk, Va.

      But Major League Baseball president Robert DuPuy told the Miami Herald last week San Antonio has become the "focus" of the Marlins' relocation talks.

      Asked if the county has sought exclusive negotiating rights with the Marlins, Wolff said: "That hasn't come up yet, but I don't want to be negotiating simultaneously while they are negotiating with someone else. (Samson) has indicated they won't do that."

      The Marlins have offered as much as $212million to build a $400million-plus stadium, with a retractable roof, in South Florida, where they say they hope to remain.

      Wolff said his $300million estimate to build a 38,000-44,000-seat stadium in Bexar County is based on construction costs being generally lower in Texas than in other states.

      Wolff, however, said land acquisition could push that figure higher. The same is true if the Marlins insist on a retractable roof.

      "I don't think a roof is needed if you position the ballpark right, put it where the sun sets behind the stands," Wolff said.

      A survey of the members of Commissioners Court indicated support for Wolff's plan.

      "Nelson Wolff has done his homework," Commissioner Tommy Adkisson said. "Judging by all the impressions I've received, the community supports this plan."

      Commissioner Sergio "Chico" Rodriguez agreed, although he said he would "love" to see a retractable roof in any plans for the proposed stadium.

      "If we are going to build something, we need to build it the right way," Rodriguez said.

      The San Antonio Convention & Visitors Bureau suggested it would support Wolff's plan.

      "Although lower taxes are always more appealing to delegates and visitors, and we do have one of the highest (hotel occupancy taxes) in the country, the San Antonio CVB has proven to be able to successfully market San Antonio with the existing tax rate, and we would continue to do so under the proposed scenario," bureau spokesperson Dee Dee Poteete said.

      The San Antonio Hotel & Lodging Association declined to comment, although its president, Ray Halani, said the association is concerned that the likely spot for the proposed stadium would be far from the downtown hotels.
      Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nascarfn5
        BY KEVIN BAXTER
        [email protected]
        SAN JUAN - Major League Baseball officials met with promoters in San Juan two days ago to discuss the possibility of moving some regular-season games, including at least one series involving the Marlins, as early as this season.

        ''We've talked about the possibility of the Marlins playing down here for a limited number of games,'' said baseball president Bob DuPuy. ``Given the current situation in Miami and the absence of any plan for a stadium . . . I'm sure they'd be willing to look at it.''

        But P.J. Loyello, the Marlins' vice president of communications, said the club has not been contacted about moving any games.

        ''We would like to see more games with the Marlins played here in Puerto Rico,'' said Enrique Cruz of MB Sports, the San Juan promoters who put on the Expos' 44 games in San Juan in 2003-04 as well as the 12 WBC games taking place here this month. ``We would like to have games [with] either the Marlins or the Devil Rays this year and the next year.''

        Another baseball official said several teams have been mentioned in talks with MB Sports.

        DuPuy admitted it would difficult to get anything done this season.
        ''We've listened to Enrique and [MB Sports CEO] Antonio Muñoz, and we'll go back and talk about it in our office and then talk to teams,'' DuPuy said. ``If it's possible, we'll talk to them. And if it's not, then we'll look at it for 2007, 2008 or 2009.''

        http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/14100691.htm
        Maybe they should playing some games in Montréal? (If Loria doesn't mind wearing a bulletproof vest?)

        Eddie Cunningham
        20 20

        Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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        • #5
          It really is amazing to see it Happening all over again. It's so weird to be seeing it but this time being totally detached from it. I'm completely desensitized. I feel bad for the poor Marlins fans. How can Bud and all the rest of them just shuffle the deck like this with Major League cities. In their brief time in Miami, the Marlins accquired some history. Now it's all about to be erased. Just like the 36 years of Expos history. It's disgusting.
          Montreal Expos 1969 - 2004

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