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  • Clemens = steroids/hgh ?

    Is it possible ?

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06092/678880-194.stm

    According to the writer of this article, an expert said so.

    "I believe your observations were beyond reproach from a training perspective. Roger has been far and away my favorite baseball player for years, but I also live in the world of knowing training reality. I would speculate that Roger is probably using a cocktail of HGH [human growth hormone] and low doses of testosterone for primarily recuperation. This combination is commonly used in anti-aging therapy across the country and would be totally undetectable in modern drug testing. In a genetically gifted athlete who did adequate resistance training it would produce profound results."

  • #2
    If he'd used HGH, wouldn't his head become physically larger?

    I'd have to see something more. Like his trainer being mixed up with all this, like Anderson was.
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    • #3
      is it possible?

      i have yet to hear a player mentioned who was/is beyond reproach.
      "you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury

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      • #4
        Originally posted by west coast orange and black
        is it possible?

        i have yet to hear a player mentioned who was/is beyond reproach.
        Aaron? Ruth? Say Hey?
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        • #5
          Don't forget during games he puts a HOT/COLD patch in his private area to "keep cool".

          Cristobal

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          • #6
            i hope at some point the truth will stop eluding us and the chemically enhanced are identified so we can put it all in perspective

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bkmckenna
              i hope at some point the truth will stop eluding us and the chemically enhanced are identified so we can put it all in perspective
              after mitchell files his "reduced" report to Selig and we're fine:

              1 name on list:

              Barry Bonds
              Cristobal

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bkmckenna
                i hope at some point the truth will stop eluding us and the chemically enhanced are identified so we can put it all in perspective
                What's your definition of "chemically enhanced"?
                Originally posted by wilkerson_rulz
                after mitchell files his "reduced" report to Selig and we're fine:

                1 name on list:

                Barry Bonds
                I'm sure there will be other names. If his name does in fact appear, it will just be the most prominent name.

                Still, unless Bonds takes and fails a drug test, I can't see his name appearing anywheer.
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                • #9
                  who cares? you can speculate all you want, I have zero desire to witchhunt.

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                  • #10
                    Wouldn't suprise me at all if Clemens juiced up. But then again, I don't think hearing about any player would surprise me at this point (well maybe not Willie McGee or Otis Nixon, those guys were skin and bones).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mattingly
                      What's your definition of "chemically enhanced"?

                      .
                      anyone in violation of the laws or spirit of the laws passed by the u.s. congress in 1990 would be a start

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                      • #12
                        Nobody would shock me, but there are some that would surprise me more than others. If I got to take 15 guesses of guys currently in the game who used, Clemens would probably be in that top 15 or so. Without any real evidence though, I hold nothing against him.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bkmckenna
                          anyone in violation of the laws or spirit of the laws passed by the u.s. congress in 1990 would be a start
                          And which chemicals would be on that list? Please name them all, omitting none.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mattingly
                            And which chemicals would be on that list? Please name them all, omitting none.
                            If only things were that cut and dry.

                            Hey Mattingly, why do you have a man on his knees in front of another man in your avatar? Can you please explain, omitting nothing Seriously, what's that from? Simpsons?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
                              If only things were that cut and dry.

                              Hey Mattingly, why do you have a man on his knees in front of another man in your avatar? Can you please explain, omitting nothing Seriously, what's that from? Simpsons?
                              No, I just like all the facts. People keep making generalizations. Me, I like hearing everything.

                              It's two men standing up. One is 6'10" Randy Johnson. The other is Ned Flanders. There's a thread about that in the Yankee forum. Yes, it's from the Simpsons.
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