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    Pujols doesn't want the Angels to use "El Hombre" in any capacity as not to disrespect Stan Musial. Classy move if you ask me.
    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

  • #2
    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
    Pujols doesn't want the Angels to use "El Hombre" in any capacity as not to disrespect Stan Musial. Classy move if you ask me.
    Sadly all the news outlets are spinning the headlines so that it seems like a racial issue...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
      Sadly all the news outlets are spinning the headlines so that it seems like a racial issue...
      ^^^^ This...
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      • #4
        Pujols seems to be much more in touch with the glorious history of the game than most players today.

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        • #5
          I wish the St. Louis media would just move on already...
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          • #6
            I have not seen them but I heard the billboards are up with the advertising of "El Hombre"

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            • #7
              What does El Hombre mean? I don't speak French.
              Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

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              • #8
                It means "overripe avocado"
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                • #9
                  I'm surprised the Angels' marketing dept. wasn't aware of Pujols' stance on this. Somebody should have checked with him first. Now they look really stupid.
                  They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UnderPressure View Post
                    What does El Hombre mean? I don't speak French.
                    Ha.
                    Originally posted by StanTheMan View Post
                    It means "overripe avocado"
                    Haha.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                      I'm surprised the Angels' marketing dept. wasn't aware of Pujols' stance on this. Somebody should have checked with him first. Now they look really stupid.
                      I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                        I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
                        Money doesn't always and shouldn't trump respect. Especially for men like Musial. A "God" of the game and all time good guy. If Pujols can bring attention to guys like Musial while showing his respect more power to him, imo.
                        Last edited by bluesky5; 02-23-2012, 07:19 AM.
                        "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                          I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
                          They're paying the man $25 million dollars a year to perform. That means keeping him happy. His happiness is more important than the ideas of some easily replacable back office marketing tools.

                          They shouldn't need to "create" hype for Pujols, they should let what he has done do the talking and if the Angels fans were actually baseball fans or can't see what a player like Pujols brings to the table they wouldn't need made up nicknames and campaigns the player they're promoting does not like.

                          It is definitely in Pujols's best interest in how he's marketed. And it's in the Angles best interests to keep their star aprised of what's going on.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
                            It is definitely in Pujols's best interest in how he's marketed. And it's in the Angles best interests to keep their star aprised of what's going on.
                            I can't believe the Angels' Marketing people didn't know about this, I knew about it, most people here probably knew about it.
                            They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
                              I wish the St. Louis media would just move on already...
                              I saw this story on national outlets several times but no locally yet at all.
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