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  • According to Manny Ramirez, Billy Beane is God

    http://www.mercurynews.com/athletics/ci_20046652

    He walks into camp on time, introduces himself while in the company of his family, his wife and their two boys, before speaking about the significance of his faith.
    He says he now goes to church, and that he prays. And he adds that he signed with the A's because God sent him to Oakland.
    He also says his name is Manny Ramirez.
    He would like you to know he is not that Manny Ramirez, the one with whom we have become familiar. He is not the proud Dominican who unapologetically marched to the beat of his own bongo. Not the guy who twice was suspended for violating Major League Baseball drug policies and faced domestic abuse allegation only five months ago. Not the slugger who is infamous for his idiosyncrasies, including occasional lethargic jogs down the first-base line.
    No, this is the new Ramirez. An enlightened, evolved Manny.
    A God-fearing Manny.
    If he's a Manny of his word, the A's could be onto something.
    Unlike the baffling $36 million signing of unproven Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes, a massive investment for a franchise constantly deprecating its squalid life below the MLB poverty line, the signing of Ramirez follows tremendous logic, no matter what planet you might be on.
    That he agreed to a minor-league contract at $500,000 for one year -- prorated to about $345K when you deduct the 50-game suspension he must serve -- makes Ramirez an excellent buy for Oakland's baseball division and an
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    outright steal for its business side.
    If Ramirez truly is committed to redemption he could be an all-around bargain.
    It wouldn't matter that he's not going to hit 40 bombs, or that he's not going to drive in 140 runs or bat .350 or get on base 40 percent of the time. Ramirez is, after all, coming up hard and fast on his 40th birthday.
    Ramirez is a once-fearsome presence A's general manager Billy Beane dug out of a distant corner of baseball's junkyard. Why not wipe the dust off Manny's bat to find out if it has any residual thunder?
    If Ramirez is serious about his desire to create a more favorable final impression than the one currently in the mind's eye -- getting caught cheating, responding by weaseling out baseball's side door, crying retirement -- this is his first and last chance. And he absolutely realizes it.
    Ramirez is thankful he has a job, and that baseball still is there for him. Maybe that's why he accepted jersey No. 1. It represents his fresh start, his new birth.
    Whereas the old Manny, a star in Cleveland and a cultural icon in Boston, clearly took for granted his prodigious gifts, the new Manny speaks of learning from the error of his ways, seeking the spiritual over the material.
    Whereas the old Manny was insouciant and cavalier, even as a grizzled veteran in Los Angeles and Tampa, the Oakland Manny is vowing sober dedication.
    And, yes, he even concedes that some of us probably won't fall for the time-tested though often hollow "I'm a new man'' trick.
    Why should we believe him? Because shortly after his first batting-practice session, during which he sprayed baseballs all across the yard and over the fence, Ramirez uttered the most profoundly mature public statement of his 19-year career:
    "I made some mistakes and I want to show my children I can correct them.''
    He says this with his sons, Manny Jr. and Lucas, as witnesses. And with his wife, Juliana, who persuaded him to turn to church and prayer, standing nearby.
    This is a Manny we've never, ever seen. A Manny the folks in Cleveland and Boston and Los Angeles wish they could have experienced.
    When a man offers himself up for scrutiny without batting an eye, it doesn't and shouldn't matter who is listening. He's not trying to score image points. He's speaking less to the audience than to those closest to him.
    It sounds as if Ramirez, whose childlike behavior in the past has simultaneously charmed and incensed, is ready to grow up and become a responsible adult who, by the way, can hit a baseball like few others in the history of the game.
    Maybe it's the gray invading his hairline, or the conviction with which he expresses his rebirth, but I believe he sincerely intends to be a better Manny. I hope he succeeds.
    And if he also brings a semi-productive bat, the A's will have at least one significant victory in 2012. After so many lean years, that's worth embracing.
    Holding a pitcher accountable for how many runs his team scores is like holding the designated hitter accountable for how many runs his team allows.

    An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.

    Contrary to what most baseball fans claim, a pitched ball which is hit into play is not a strike.

  • #2
    Oh great.

    Ive always liked Manny. Now i've lost respect for him. The "god card" is the oldest trick in the book. I dont care that he used PEDs, but the public religious fundamentalism I can do without.
    Last edited by GiambiJuice; 02-26-2012, 06:02 AM.
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    4. Ted Williams
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    7. Hank Aaron
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    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    • #3
      This doesn't sound like the Manny Ramirez I wanted to experience in Cleveland.

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      • #4
        Yesterday on MLB Net, they were saying when Manny came into the clubhouse, he ran into SP Brett Anderson and asked him if was the teams Videographer... I guess it can only get better from there.
        WAR? Prove it!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
          Yesterday on MLB Net, they were saying when Manny came into the clubhouse, he ran into SP Brett Anderson and asked him if was the teams Videographer... I guess it can only get better from there.
          Hahahaha. Manny being Manny.

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          • #6
            Dear Oakland,

            Welcome to Manny being Manny. Better get used to it.
            Religion: Yankeeist

            "Hanging out with him sucks because all the women flock to him. Let's see, he's been on the cover of GQ, is rich and famous, hits for average and power and is a helluva nice guy." - Tim Raines on Derek Jeter

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            • #7
              The "God card" is not a "card" for every athlete. Many pro athletes genuinely and authentically believe what they say they believe - whether any of us agree with them or not. And if forming worldview or making behavioral choices at least partially based upon religious beliefs makes one a "fundamentalist", then a vast majority of the 7 bilion people in the world are "fundamentalists." Manny saying that he now has religious beliefs that are going to change some of his socially unacceptable behavior is not fundamentalism whatsoever.

              If anyone here does, however, have the ability to gauge the authenticity of someone's belief system, I would be very impressed and would love to hear under what conditions said skill was acquired. That could really come in handy this election cycle.

              I say we all take our own advice from the Braun threads and give Ramirez the benefit of the doubt that his faith is real to him (not necessarily you) until his actions no longer match up.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                Manny saying that he now has religious beliefs that are going to change some of his socially unacceptable behavior is not fundamentalism whatsoever.

                I say we all take our own advice from the Braun threads and give Ramirez the benefit of the doubt that his faith is real to him (not necessarily you) until his actions no longer match up.
                I'd like to believe that Ramirez is sincere but this seems like a convieniently timed PR ploy on Ramirez's part.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                  I'd like to believe that Ramirez is sincere but this seems like a convieniently timed PR ploy on Ramirez's part.
                  It may as well be. Tim will tell.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                    It may as well be. Tim will tell.
                    Tim who? McCarver?
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=GiambiJuice;1984377]Tim who? McCarver? [/QUOTE

                      not Tebow?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                        Tim who? McCarver?
                        He might...he always has strong opinions on such matters.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                          He might...he always has strong opinions on such matters.
                          I think we found our Ryan Braun leak.
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                          • #14
                            Worse than Manny being Manny... this appears to be Manny being St. Manny.
                            "I can see how he won twenty-five games. What I don't understand is how he lost five." - Yogi Berra on Sandy Koufax's 1963 season.

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