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  • Bengie Molina calls it quits

    Lots of solid names ending their careers lately.

    Bengie Molina has retired, according to Andrew Baggarly of CSNBayArea.com. Molina, a catcher, played in parts of 13 seasons with the Angels, Blue Jays, Giants and Rangers, and though he did not play in 2011, he had remained open to the possibility of returning until now.
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    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...a-retires.html

  • #2
    Have you started his Hall Of Fame thread yet?
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    • #3
      He's actually not on my list of threads to do.

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      • #4
        Good career though.

        IIRC all of the Flying Molina Brothers finish up with World Series rings. 5 rings between them (possibly 6, depending on how generous the Giants were with them in 2010). Not a bad accomplishment. You could conceivably induct them as a group like the Alous.

        And of course, Yadier's still out there in his prime and maybe able to add to it.
        Last edited by Imgran; 02-27-2012, 08:45 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Imgran View Post
          Good career though.

          IIRC all of the Flying Molina Brothers finish up with World Series rings. 5 rings between them (possibly 6, depending on how generous the Giants were with them in 2010). Not a bad accomplishment. You could conceivably induct them as a group like the Alous.

          And of course, Yadier's still out there in his prime and maybe able to add to it.
          Bengie was given a ring by the Giants, and deservedly so.

          Bengie was a very good catcher, but hardly HOF material. Jose should not end up anywhere near the HOF, except as a paying customer. Yadier could end up there if he has a very long career, stays great defensively and keeps up the offensive improvement he showed last year, but that's a big "could."
          San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!

          "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein

          "Royals wear crowns, but Champions Kiss the Ring" ~ Jeremy Affeldt

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          • #6
            ya but together they were a very unique story. 3 brothers, all catchers, in the league together winning World Series titles all in the same era?

            I agree that analyzing their careers, the careers don't make the Hall, but put it all together in one place and it's a unique story you don't hear about very often. The Hall collects unique stories, not just stat-gathering old athletes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
              Bengie was given a ring by the Giants, and deservedly so.

              Bengie was a very good catcher, but hardly HOF material. Jose should not end up anywhere near the HOF, except as a paying customer. Yadier could end up there if he has a very long career, stays great defensively and keeps up the offensive improvement he showed last year, but that's a big "could."


              Yadier might end up being a late bloomer on offense just like his Bengie. Bengie didn't hit 19-20 home runs until he was in his early 30s.
              Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

              If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by UnderPressure View Post
                Yadier might end up being a late bloomer on offense just like his Bengie. Bengie didn't hit 19-20 home runs until he was in his early 30s.
                His best seasons were probably with the Angels. When he was hitting 19-20 homers for the Giants, he was barely getting on base 30% of the time. He was one of the worst offensive players in baseball despite the home runs.
                My top 10 players:

                1. Babe Ruth
                2. Barry Bonds
                3. Ty Cobb
                4. Ted Williams
                5. Willie Mays
                6. Alex Rodriguez
                7. Hank Aaron
                8. Honus Wagner
                9. Lou Gehrig
                10. Mickey Mantle

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                  His best seasons were probably with the Angels. When he was hitting 19-20 homers for the Giants, he was barely getting on base 30% of the time. He was one of the worst offensive players in baseball despite the home runs.
                  That's not necessarily true. Molina was doing exactly what the Giants needed him to do, drive in runs. He earned his nickname, Money, for his ability to come through when it mattered the most. As a true 6 or 7-hole hitter, he did a fantastic job in the 4-hole for a lousy offense. The statement you make is derived from looking at nothing more than statistics, which are often misleading and don't paint a complete picture. He slugged .433, .455 and .452 in his 3 full seasons as a Giant, and drove in 80, 95 and 81 runs. He wasn't trying to draw walks in that offense. He played a role on that team and his role was to swing the bat and drive in runs. It says something (negative) about your offense when Bengie Molina is your cleanup hitter. I mean, in his prime he would have been an ideal 6-hole hitter. He was never built to be a cleanup hitter but he did a better than average job in his role.
                  San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!

                  "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein

                  "Royals wear crowns, but Champions Kiss the Ring" ~ Jeremy Affeldt

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                  • #10
                    He certainly did better than you should expect of a catcher in that role.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Imgran View Post
                      He certainly did better than you should expect of a catcher in that role.
                      Just how much worse than a 90 OPS+ are you expecting from your cleanup hitter?
                      My top 10 players:

                      1. Babe Ruth
                      2. Barry Bonds
                      3. Ty Cobb
                      4. Ted Williams
                      5. Willie Mays
                      6. Alex Rodriguez
                      7. Hank Aaron
                      8. Honus Wagner
                      9. Lou Gehrig
                      10. Mickey Mantle

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                        Just how much worse than a 90 OPS+ are you expecting from your cleanup hitter?
                        That's on Sabean, not Molina.

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                        • #13
                          Bengie had a real nice career.
                          Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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