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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
    Well that statement hardly takes into consideration all the lives Castro has affected negatively in 60-years of harsh dictatorship. And yes, Guillen is entittled to free speech, but he should be prepared to accept the consequences of his words, and in that part of this country, those are some hard words to hear. A lot of people suffered a lot of hardship because of that man, and Guillen has ruffled a lot of feathers, feathers of people who buy tickets and merchandise I might add. I would not be surprised if Ozzie is unable to ride this one out.
    Please, the Cubans were essentially slaves to the U.S. agriculture companies before the rebellion. If they had attempted to install a democratic government it would have been infiltrated and manipulated quickly and effectively by and for western business interests.
    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Seattle1 View Post
      Hey Guillen is entitled to his opinion. It's a free country, and there's a thing called the First Amendment (free speech).
      Was anybody saying that Ozzie should be arrested or charged with a crime for his comments? No. Like Ed said, that's what the First Amendment protects. The Marlins are within their rights to fire or suspend Ozzie for what he said.

      Originally posted by Seattle1 View Post
      Just think of all this hatred for Castro precipitated one of our own Presidents getting murdered. Because the CIA tried to assassinate Castro, Kennedy left them hanging on the Bay of Pigs and then began working toward eliminating the CIA altogether, which in turn contributed to the internal decision within the CIA to turn around and kill Kennedy themselves!

      All this contempt for some dude with a beard on an island out in the Caribbean.
      Please spare us your High Times geopolitical analysis.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
        Please, the Cubans were essentially slaves to the U.S. agriculture companies before the rebellion. If they had attempted to install a democratic government it would have been infiltrated and manipulated quickly and effectively by and for western business interests.
        Then by your Ron Paul logic, we're all essentially slaves to whatever US company we work for.

        Didn't know we had so many tinfoil hat wearers on this message board.

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        • #19
          Ozzie does realize that about 60% if not more of Miami is Cuban right? You need a dam translater in Miami international Airport let alone in the city itself.
          All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

          A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
            Please, the Cubans were essentially slaves to the U.S. agriculture companies before the rebellion. If they had attempted to install a democratic government it would have been infiltrated and manipulated quickly and effectively by and for western business interests.
            I know you can't be serious.....
            All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

            A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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            • #21
              Does anyone know if Gaby Sanchez has shared his thoughts on this? He is a Cuban-American.
              Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

              If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
                Maybe not to you, but to a whole lot of people they sure as heck were.
                Which I acknowledged in the second part of my post that you quoted.
                Last edited by ol' aches and pains; 04-10-2012, 06:31 AM.
                Shalom, y'all!
                What's the rumpus?

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                • #23
                  And now the Marlins have suspended him for 5 games.
                  Lets Go Yankees, Valley Cats, Dutchmen, UT Spartans and ECU Pirates.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KevinWI View Post
                    Then by your Ron Paul logic, we're all essentially slaves to whatever US company we work for.

                    Didn't know we had so many tinfoil hat wearers on this message board.
                    I'm not a hippie or a conspiracy theorist, what I said is true. Talk to the guy who thinks the CIA shot Kennedy or the guy who is outraged that a non-Cuban isn't offended by those comments.

                    By my logic if your job entails working 14 hours a day in the Caribbean, being watched by men with whips and returning to your one room grass hut on 2 cents a week then yea your a slave to your company.
                    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                      Here we go....
                      No we don't . . .

                      No more theories or personal opinions on Cuba and/or political policies, please. As always. Thanks.
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                      • #26
                        Ozzie was suspended by the marlins for 5 games.
                        All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                        A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                        • #27
                          His quote was translated from Spanish to English and there must have been some kind of overlap. You shouldn't be suspended for speaking your mind and being misunderstood.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by CokeMachineGlow View Post
                            His quote was translated from Spanish to English and there must have been some kind of overlap. You shouldn't be suspended for speaking your mind and being misunderstood.
                            I don't think he was misunderstood. The context, according to one ESPN article, is that he was admiring Castro for persevering over the years despite being hated so much. That's something to which he relates.

                            Even with that context, it's very, very hard to ignore that he admires a dictator in some way.
                            46 wins to match last year's total

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                            • #29
                              I can see this turning into how the Marlins are preventing free speech and blah blah blah
                              All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                              A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                                I can see this turning into how the Marlins are preventing free speech and blah blah blah
                                Preventing free speech, my behind. People can say whatever they want; that is not an issue. What they have to worry about is the backlash from what they say. Guillen's words have potentially serious consequences for the Marlins organization, and he seems to understand that now.
                                46 wins to match last year's total

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