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    I've searched around but couldn't find a poll like this. So, let's find out how popular (or unpopular) the DH is on BBF.
    89
    Love it - keep it
    32.58%
    29
    Hate it - get rid of it
    59.55%
    53
    Not sure
    7.87%
    7
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  • #2
    Due to the constraints of the poll, I had to vote "Not Sure". Being a realist, I know the DH isn't going away. My position is it should be standardized one way or the other throughout MLB. Either implement it in the National League, or get rid of it altogether, I really don't care which.
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    • #3
      I'm probably in the minority, but I'm fine with one league having it and the other not having it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
        Due to the constraints of the poll, I had to vote "Not Sure". Being a realist, I know the DH isn't going away. My position is it should be standardized one way or the other throughout MLB. Either implement it in the National League, or get rid of it altogether, I really don't care which.
        I'm feeling the same way, both leagues should have it. Saying that, I also know it's never going away. I don't hate it, just don't like it but if it's here, should be in both leagues.

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        • #5
          If you're going to let them substitute a hitter, he should be allowed to hit for anybody in the line-up.
          Mike Hopper
          Former Gateway Grizzlies Intern

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          • #6
            I don't like it or dislike it. I do dislike the fact that AL teams can't always use it. I think AL teams should always use it and until the NL adopts it NL teams should never be allowed to use it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
              I don't like it or dislike it. I do dislike the fact that AL teams can't always use it. I think AL teams should always use it and until the NL adopts it NL teams should never be allowed to use it.
              Sorry.. that might be the DUMBEST solution I've heard.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
                Sorry.. that might be the DUMBEST solution I've heard.
                Why? Why should an AL team have to revamp its lineup (and not follow its own league rules) in an NL park?

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                • #9
                  the DH was invented and originally suggested due to the second dead ball era of the middle to late 60s (other factors such as the wider strike zone, etc. also heavily contributed),

                  Baseball was seeing its popularity decrease, and had worries about aging stars with injuries being lost from the game (like Orlando Cepeda, Tony Oliva, etc)

                  it was an artifical creation to bring offense back into a dieing game

                  the problems I have with the DH are that a pitcher can throw at a hitter and not worry about retaliation against himself

                  a player with skills like gred maddux or orel hershiser that can field and hit and help his team in many ways shoould be an advantage he can use

                  the old adage (back in the early 1970s) was who wants to see 9 frank Howards bat against 9 bud harrelsons in the field

                  the DH is an artificial creation that is no longer needed

                  abolish it
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                    Why? Why should an AL team have to revamp its lineup (and not follow its own league rules) in an NL park?
                    So you'd also be okay with one team using an aluminum bat and the other using wood? I mean rules are rules. Why can't teams whatever different rules they so choose?


                    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
                    the problems I have with the DH are that a pitcher can throw at a hitter and not worry about retaliation against himself
                    I think that's one great thing about the no DH. That was demonstrated perfectly when Hamels hit Harper a few weeks ago. Hamels knew exactly what was coming that next half-inning when he stepped into the batter's box. And he accepted that as the consequence of his actions.

                    I just don't understand why people believe the pitcher should be held to a different standard than any other player on the field.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
                      So you'd also be okay with one team using an aluminum bat and the other using wood? I mean rules are rules. Why can't teams whatever different rules they so choose?




                      I think that's one great thing about the no DH. That was demonstrated perfectly when Hamels hit Harper a few weeks ago. Hamels knew exactly what was coming that next half-inning when he stepped into the batter's box. And he accepted that as the consequence of his actions.
                      Agreed. Why bother hitting the opponents' star hitter? Just hit the starting pitcher that hit your guy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
                        So you'd also be okay with one team using an aluminum bat and the other using wood? I mean rules are rules. Why can't teams whatever different rules they so choose?


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                        I've never seen a Major League team use aluminum bats so I don't know what rules you are talking about. I don't understand your whole statement.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                          I don't like it or dislike it. I do dislike the fact that AL teams can't always use it. I think AL teams should always use it and until the NL adopts it NL teams should never be allowed to use it.
                          Well Ed, there is this little thing in the fall called the World Series, and if anyone thought the result of an exibition game determining home field advantage for the Fall Classic was the biggest farce in a log time... They need to read your post.

                          AL gets to DH while the NL does not. In the World Series.




                          Sorry, I have to.




                          I have no problem with the current system. NL ball is strategically different than AL ball, and I prefer it. If I were to make one change it might be for Interleague Play in the AL park WOULD HAVE the pitchers hit, to let AL fans, especially those 30 and under, see their manager in a pressure spot in the late innings, perhaps taking a pitcher off the mound, but with the P spot due up in the next half inning, he has a decision to make. Same with a starter who is pitching well, but is up to bat with runners on in a close low scoring game. Let him hit or remove him from the game? Use of the whole bench due to increased PH, etc.

                          Conversely in the NL parks, let Interleague Games USE the DH. Again, different ball for fans who have not seen it.

                          Here is the problem with the DH... One season, Cito Gaston was managing Toronto, and did not make a single change to his starting lineup until a game in June. Changed P whenever he wanted. Never pinch hit for anyone. That's not managing in my book. It's beer league softball managing...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                            I've never seen a Major League team use aluminum bats so I don't know what rules you are talking about. I don't understand your whole statement.
                            The point is if you are okay with the team two using different rules, then why can't an individual team use whatever rules it wants?

                            Next thing you know.. maybe we should assign two umpires to each team as well. That homeplate umpire's strike zone today is calling everything for team A and nothing for team B. I mean different rules, why not?

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                            A professional pitcher makes a lot of money to play the game of baseball. He should have to play ALL aspects of the game. They always claim that they are the best athletes on the field.. let's see it!
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                            Former Gateway Grizzlies Intern

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
                              The point is if you are okay with the team two using different rules, then why can't an individual team use whatever rules it wants?

                              Next thing you know.. maybe we should assign two umpires to each team as well. That homeplate umpire's strike zone today is calling everything for team A and nothing for team B. I mean different rules, why not?

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                              A professional pitcher makes a lot of money to play the game of baseball. He should have to play ALL aspects of the game. They always claim that they are the best athletes on the field.. let's see it!
                              I'm not okay with two different sets of rules. I think AL teams should use AL rules and NL teams should use NL rules in every game and in every venue.

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